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Luci
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 22 Location: Lamma
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ban bikes altogether, bloody nuisance the lot of them and the pinheads who think their riding them as they scoot into everything with gormless looks on their faces, the pier should be bike free at all times, don't give all this crap that you need a bike on Lamma to save any time, utter BS, no need to spend any money building something no one will use if we get rid of all the bikes in the first place. _________________ ~(")~ |
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higgsboson over 100 messages posted

Joined: 20 Feb 2009 Posts: 136
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| Thats right, gormless looks on their faces for sure. Some of the bikers are complete assholes and have no problem darting in and out between those on foot. |
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Moley

Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 86 Location: NgaKaoWan
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:52 am Post subject: |
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I don't ride bikes and admittedly I do get frustrated sometimes (especially over the weekend) when bikes can get overwhelming.
But then, I have never had any problem with bikes (or bikers) going back and forth home - just walk as usual without darting. I never give way and I have never been hurt nor caused to be cautious.
Bikes are part of Lamma, I reckon. |
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minibeast over 100 messages posted

Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 121
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| do you mean a blanket ban on bikes or just bikes in the main street? |
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Kalistofa over 200 messages posted


Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 244
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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It's high time this topic was aired. It's not just the darting in and out (and add in a few pushy VVs and poorly managed dogs), it's the total disregard for manners and safety, on the part of riders, when they park and later retrieve their bikes.
Retrieving the bike seems to be the main opportunity for total arrogance. Once unlocked, the bike is heaved out and simply plonked down in front of oncoming pedestrians, with never a glance to see if it's safe to do so.
Then at night we see plenty of lights on these bikes right? NOT!
It all seems part of the current "don't give a toss" social mood on Lamma. Live and let live is one thing, but blatant disregard for the safety of others is, at bottom, a lack of respect for life. |
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poilkoop over 200 messages posted

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 297
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I've been llving and biking on Lamma for twenty years and we never even had any moderate injuries to pedestrians as far as I know. Bikes are very safe for all road users.
I think this is more an example of intolerance akin to certain fascists than a reasonable suggestion.
What else will you ban?
Tolerance and acceptance is part of Lamma culture and makes it a great place to live. |
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Kalistofa over 200 messages posted


Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 244
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I've been llving and biking on Lamma for twenty years and we never even had any moderate injuries to pedestrians as far as I know. |
Clearly, "as far as I know" is the get out clause here.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that the current situation from the ferry pier through the length of Man Street is unsafe, particularly in those minutes when passengers are coming off the ferry.
The irony for the bike riders is that at those times thay can't possibly make any faster progress than they would on foot -- UNLESS they force their way through the throng fairly aggressively, which they often do.
"Tolerance and acceptance" are not the same thing as carte blanche to be totally obnoxious.
When they're not threatening safety, riders are simply totally obnoxious when they force their way through crowds of pedestrians. Ever heard, of social grace, courtesy, etiquette, simple good manners? Own a bike, and it seems these traditions are out the window. |
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higgsboson over 100 messages posted

Joined: 20 Feb 2009 Posts: 136
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone having lived on Lamma more than a few months must have seen a few near miss collisions between pedestrians and bikers.
How I know this is an attitude problem on the part of many bikers is the incessant jingling they use when they want to pass, especially coming off the ferry and onto main street, as if all those on foot should step aside and make way.
Dangerous and rude behavior. |
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Xerxes Brown-Nosed Sycophant of the Month

Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 121
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| My own pet peeve is probably the opposite - coming across the group of people, walking at the speed of continental drift, shoulder to shoulder completely blocking the path when you are walking to the ferry. After politely saying " excuse me" 15 blummin times, only to be ignored - I sometimes wish I did have a bike with which to mow the buggers down. |
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SeaView over 100 messages posted

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 105
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| I think we all, bike owners, pedestrians, dog owners and VV owners, need to realise that the path from the end of the ferry pier and through Main Street is just too narrow for the amount of traffic that passes along it. Unless an alternative is found (moving the ferry terminal across to the opposite side of the harbour entrance is the only solution I can think of) we are all going to have to apply a little more patience. |
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Foxy over 500 messages posted


Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 575
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| These people on crutches and in wheelchairs are a pain, too. Why can't they walk like everyone else? |
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Blazenski over 100 messages posted


Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 118 Location: Isle de Lamma
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: |
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If you glance over to the most popular topics of all time, the thread "can bikers and drivers please slow down" aired many of these same comments (some equally daft) a while ago. The conclusion (ignoring the lunatic fringe) is that courtesy and common sense are the answer. _________________ Those who forget the pasta are condemned to reheat it |
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poilkoop over 200 messages posted

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 297
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Just leave would you. I'm fed up with up tight ass holes complaining.
Most of you don't even like the place, you just come here because it's cheap |
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Xerxes Brown-Nosed Sycophant of the Month

Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 121
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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i agree its fairly simple to solve with manners - if someone is behind you and trying to get past - move if you can and allow them to do so - whats the issue with allowing people to pass you after all ? do people feel the same way if someone walks faster than you and overtakes, are they being rude by overtaking you ? manners and respect work both ways for pedestrians and bikers.
I think Seaview put it best, the paths are narrow and we all need to have patience, these things, while being a bit annoying at times , are hardly big detractions from the benefits of living on Lamma |
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Slezza
Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 33
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I avoid going to YSW because of the bikes. It's unpleasant constantly being forced to jump around to avoid cyclists. YSW is too crowded and the streets are too narrow to make biking thru the busy area practical.
I feel bikes should be saved for more open, less-busy paths where they can easily co exist with pedestrians (ie where people aren't forced to jump off the jump in order to avoid a speeding cyclist) - where there's enough room for both.
Here in Sok Kwu Wan, no one would think about trying to ride a bike down First Street at midday on Saturday or Sunday when it's swarming with tourists, but in YSW, the bikers seem undeterred by the presence of massed humanity. |
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Lamma-Gung Site Admin, Webmaster, Lamma-zine Editor

Joined: 01 Aug 2002 Posts: 5631 Location: Yung Shue Wan
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Slezza wrote: | I avoid going to YSW because of the bikes.... It's unpleasant constantly being forced to jump around to avoid cyclists.
YSW is too crowded...presence of massed humanity. |
Wow, those are certainly strong sentiments! Would you care to elaborate, please? I can smell another contrarian Lamma-zine story brewing....  _________________ Click here for new Lamma-zine stories and recent Photos of the Day and Artworks of the Day |
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Yogesh Chinese & Music Forums Moderator

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 513 Location: Wah Fu South
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: |
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I'm coming over to Lamma with my folding bike tomorrow. Beware!
All I would say is that I wouldn't ride my bike on Lamma in the same way as I would on Des Voeux Road Central. |
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G.O.D.S over 200 messages posted

Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 230
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:14 am Post subject: |
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maybe you should all stop moaning like a bunch of old farts. _________________ wooooooooooooooooh |
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Beanburglar over 700 messages posted


Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 788
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I don't find the bikes such a problem but I worry about the ferries always hanging around that pier thing. I've noticed how they splash sometimes and am concerned that my shoes, although waterproof, may not withstand a big splash from one of said ferries, so I'm definitely either staying indoors or keeping inland until something can be done about them. _________________ My real name isn't Harry.
Slurp my bean juice. |
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alice dancer over 300 messages posted

Joined: 13 Jun 2008 Posts: 325
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: bikes |
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agee there is insufficient room on the high street for bikes but ban altogether ,nonsense,illogical ,could be a british person thinking is it ,the least biking nationhood that i,ve ever known ,but i,ve only lived in 7!
the commonwealth countries seem to have adopted the thinking too but at least they are hugh! |
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