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snacklover
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 Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: Dangerous Public Area !!!! |
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WE CAN NO LONGER TOLERATE THE MESSY SITUATION AT THE OPEN AREA IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC PIER. THERE IS LOT OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL AND PILE OF SAND WITHOUT PROPER COVER. ALSO, IT BECOMES A CONSTRUCTION SITE WITH DANGER MACHINES. IT WOULD NOT ONLY CAUSE DANGER TO THE CHILDREN BUT IT COULD CAUSE HYGIENE PROBLEM!!!!!!
Anyone concur? |
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Lamma-Gung
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Great idea, snacklover!
How about sending me a larger version of your poster (at least 1,000 pixels wide, email to info@lamma.com.hk) and I'll put it onto the home page. The people in power might usually ignore these forums but there will be a strong reaction if it's on the home page (and on the walls) as so many more people will see it, including the local powers-that-be...
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Leggova
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Not sure this is a really a battle worth fighting. |
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Granola Eater
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Leggova wrote: | | Not sure this is a really a battle worth fighting. |
Thats right, the only battles worth fighting are on behalf of cats and dogs.
Everything else is pointless. |
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G.O.D.S
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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I heard they buried puppies alive under that pile of sand.
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Biffa
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| What hygeine problem? |
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Leggova
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Granola Eater wrote: | | Leggova wrote: | | Not sure this is a really a battle worth fighting. |
Thats right, the only battles worth fighting are on behalf of cats and dogs.
Everything else is pointless. |
Yeah, that is exactly what I said |
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dingo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Well....
I think the reason many like living on Lamma is that we enjoy the fact that everything is not so regulated and a bit of a mess.
Hygiene problem? Huh is that one a joke?
Safety problem for unsupervised kids? Huh. Isn't the ocean not far from there. 
Surely we don't Lamma to end up like the regulated west?
I'd say think again before people embrace this kind of notice and keep Lamma a very enjoyable and slightly unorganized, nice place to live.
I hope people leave this kind of western thinking alone.  |
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Alan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| dingo wrote: | | I hope people leave this kind of western thinking alone. |
Amazing. You try to turn this into an expression of cultural relativism.
Leaving piles of gravel and sand in a public place is not an expression of "eastern" thinking or Confucianism or whatever you are implying. It's an expression of some businessmen taking advantage and not caring about the impact on anyone else.
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Foxy
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| This site is dangerous? Can't say I'd ever noticed. What do we need to watch out for, exactly? |
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snacklover
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: Are you serious? |
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| Foxy wrote: | | This site is dangerous? Can't say I'd ever noticed. What do we need to watch out for, exactly? |
I am surprised that some of you do not care of our environment! Do you know what a proper and safe construction site should be!? Sand should be covered; fenced off from public; no rustic steel; no accumulation of water...... NO CHILDREN.
UNREGULATED = NONSENSE!
Remember some days before, some group playing Kung Fu and Tai Chi at that area? Remember some people fishing at the pier?
It should be our nice Lamma Island. |
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dingo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Are you serious? |
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[quote="snacklover"] | Foxy wrote: | | Sand should be covered; fenced off from public; no rustic steel; no accumulation of water. |
hmm, maybe we could also cover the ocean seeing as that is likely more dangerous to unsupervised kids. |
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dingo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Alan wrote: | | dingo wrote: | | I hope people leave this kind of western thinking alone. |
Amazing. You try to turn this into an expression of cultural relativism.
Leaving piles of gravel and sand in a public place is not an expression of "eastern" thinking or Confucianism or whatever you are implying. It's an expression of some businessmen taking advantage and not caring about the impact on anyone else. |
Well.......................not really. But do we need to get all petty about this stuff. So there's a few piles of stuff around. If you have a gripe with locals making money that's a different story. But saying this stuff is dangerous for unsupervised kids when the sea is next door seems a bit odd.
Sounds like the comments you hear in the U.K, America or Australia. I hope Lamma doesn't end up like that. |
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Alan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| dingo wrote: | | But do we need to get all petty about this stuff. |
That is quite a different point than saying it's a "western" issue.
Exactly as Yu Lai Fan dismiss any concerns about the environment as coming from "hippie gweilos".
Chinese people have no greater tolerance for piles of crap lying around than westerners.
And businesses here have a tendency to "temporarily" store stuff in public areas. And then after a few months, build some structures, and before you know it, it's their private property. Look at the "public space" next to the hall in Main Street, for instance. |
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Marc Antony
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| dingo wrote: | Surely we don't Lamma to end up like the regulated west?
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You mean like New Orleans, for example?
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dingo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Like just about anywhere in the west.
and Alan I would say Chinese people are far more tolerant than many westerners.
It's always a worry when people try to bring their rules and regulations to lovely little largely unregulated spot like Lamma. I guess much of it's habit and if they really thought about it...........
.....after all that's how it all started to get so clinical in the west.
If we're all honest with each other what we probably like most about Lamma is it's not like living in the west.
Hope we can keep it that way. |
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Marc Antony
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dingo, your logic is baffling. Are you suggesting that New Orleans is more regulated than Tokyo, or Central?
I'd say Lamma has lots of appealing qualities, one of the greatest of which is that it's not really like anywhere else, west or east.
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Alan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| dingo wrote: | | and Alan I would say Chinese people are far more tolerant than many westerners. |
That's ludicrous.
| dingo wrote: | | It's always a worry when people try to bring their rules and regulations to lovely little largely unregulated spot like Lamma. I guess much of it's habit and if they really thought about it.: |
Unregulated?
Perhaps you have noticed that almost all the houses here are 3 stories, 700 sq ft? Do you think that's a coincidence? A cultural preference?
It's the regulations for village housing.
Why aren't there any mopeds or motorbikes here? Surely lots of people could afford and would like to use these.
Do you know how many months of paperwork and inspections it takes to open a restaurant here?
I could go on and on, but everything here is "regulated", ESPECIALLY land use. More so than in many Western countries in fact.
Your worldview seems strangely idealised and only vaguely related to the one we live in.
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dingo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well no.
Central and H.K in general seems to be trying as hard as they can to be as anal as the west.
New Orleans is one place I haven't been so can't comment. Hopefully it's better than most major western cities.
Lamma feels like a mix of a Chinese village and western holiday hangout to me. |
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Alan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| dingo wrote: | | Lamma feels like a mix of a Chinese village and western holiday hangout to me. |
Al the examples I cited apply to Lamma.
A "Chinese village" here, or in the mainland for that matter, is highly regulated. |
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