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Beanburglar over 700 messages posted


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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Don't listen to anything Alan says Mary. He wears socks with his sandals. _________________ My real name isn't Harry.
Slurp my bean juice. |
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Lamma-Gung Site Admin, Webmaster, Lamma-zine Editor

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: Socks & sandals |
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Actually, so do I sometimes. The velcro on my fancy sandals is scratching my delicate skin otherwise.
Actually, wearing socks with your sandals is the secret (oops!) code of Lamma.com.hk forum moderators! It's required attire. You can dress any way you like, even nude is OK, but you've GOT to wear socks with your sandals! That's the sign how we moderators recognise each other on the street, our own little cliquish sign.
So watch out, when you see somebody strolling comfortably (socks&sandals are very cozy and comfortable!) down High Street, it might be a moderator of this forum,...
or it could be a naughty impostor! We'll hunt them down, turn them upside down and confiscate their socks or press them into (voluntary, of course) service as new moderators!
Beware, you unauthorised socks&sandals wearers out there, we're comin' ta get ya! _________________ Click here for new Lamma-zine stories and recent Photos of the Day and Artworks of the Day |
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Alan Discussions Forum Moderator

Joined: 05 Sep 2002 Posts: 2990 Location: Tai Wan Kau Tsuen
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Beanburglar wrote: | | Don't listen to anything Alan says Mary. He wears socks with his sandals. |
I'm sure that would be against the Dress Code in Disco Bay. Another reason (aside from the money, of course) I am condemned to exile here. |
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foreign body over 200 messages posted

Joined: 07 Dec 2002 Posts: 299 Location: yung shue long
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Fashion has nothing to do with taste.
Fashion is a conspiracy conjured up by capitalism to avert its over-production crisis, and only feeble minds fall into the trap. Taste on the other hand is very difficult to define, even Hume and Kant provide only fragmentary and contradictory theories on taste. As far as i am concerned it's the individual's response to massification and conformism.
Having said that, wearing sandals with socks is not the way i would respond to the diktats of fashion. And yet once i wore lime green socks with pink high heels! |
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Alan Discussions Forum Moderator

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| foreign body wrote: | | Having said that, wearing sandals with socks is not the way i would respond to the diktats of fashion. |
Anyone who knows me can see that fashion is not a consideration in the way I dress.
And thanks to Beanbuglar for reviving the perennial subject of my footwear. Always good for a few laughs. |
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Lamma-Gung Site Admin, Webmaster, Lamma-zine Editor

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Alan, no need to explain your choice of footwear! Be proud, dress any way you like and no need to take any fashion advice from the likes of Beanburglar. If we talk about fashion, where would we even start to criticize the way he dresses!
BE PROUD to wear socks&sandals as it is a sign of being a respected forum moderator, a high honour reserved for those selected few dedicating so much of their time to supervise this often unruly forum and answer all the questions from Lamma Newbies, helping them to settle into our community! _________________ Click here for new Lamma-zine stories and recent Photos of the Day and Artworks of the Day |
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spinoza1112 over 600 messages posted


Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 630
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| foreign body wrote: | Fashion has nothing to do with taste.
Fashion is a conspiracy conjured up by capitalism to avert its over-production crisis, and only feeble minds fall into the trap. Taste on the other hand is very difficult to define, even Hume and Kant provide only fragmentary and contradictory theories on taste. As far as i am concerned it's the individual's response to massification and conformism.
Having said that, wearing sandals with socks is not the way i would respond to the diktats of fashion. And yet once i wore lime green socks with pink high heels! |
My pet fashion peeve: some damn sort of *fatwa* seemed to have been issued by the Fashion industry circa 1997 that "men may no longer expose the upper thigh and MUST WEAR BOARD SHORTS".
This may have resulted from increased Islamization since the Q'uran states that men must cover from the neck to the knee (the Q'uran is silent, to my knowledge about socks and sandals).
It came to my attention in 1997 in two ways. First, then-Congressman, Representative Robert "B-1 Bob" Dornan of Orange County (CA) laid into then-President Bill Clinton for his jogging attire, saying that the thought and image of the Presidents "fat, white, milky" thighs made him, Dornan, puke.
At about the same time, I was attacked at Oak Street Beach in Chicago for emerging from a long work-out in Speedos by a drunken lout ... for wearing Speedos.
But I'll be damned if I wear board shorts. They suck. The fabric gets in the way and slows you down for my favorite out-of-door activities (swimming, running, and dancing).
If anyone is either sexually aroused or made ill by my upper leg, it is his or her responsibility to deal with it. Please feel free to introduce yourself.
Let's keep Lamma Island a place of style, and not fashion. If one would wear gloves and a hat, as the lovely MaryElena has been known to wear, let us celebrate her maidenly modesty. If one would go barechested with a long beard, let us celebrate the goat-footed balloon man.
I agree that the sensitivities of the bairns (children) need to be respected. Children deserve to be protected from seeing what they know to be a person's sloppy parts. But even a Brazilian Bikini covers the sloppy parts, which may be defined as those parts, apart from the mouth and nose, that conduct fluids.
"Mummy, why is that lady's tummy showing?"
"Why, Colin, the tummy is not a naughty place!"
"But I can see her belly button!"
"So? I can see yours too!"
They also need to be educated into multicultural tolerance, as was the slightly older British kid who told his mates, *sotto voce*, one day in Spring when I was moseying to PSB in cut-offs, "just because 'is shorts is shorter than yours disnae mean he is gay".
Obviously Eton or Harrow material, that lad, with Oxbridge and a seat in Parliament to follow.
Sandals with socks are typically an indication of an intellectual, ruminative temperament that is willing to compromise with what Freud called the reality principle.
In the case of the Western male foot, the "reality principle" is the fact that is is a whacking great big thing in most cases, and quite apt to develop chambers and spaces in which fungi grow most luxuriantly, and to, as a result, give off more fumes than the typical female foot. The socks absorb this odor if kept clean.
The socko sandal thus represents a compromise between the fact that humans weren't designed for the Western shoe, and the need to not fright the ladies.
It is often found on Russian intellectuals where it also handles the fact of the cold.
D. H. Lawrence is on record as not liking trousers and preferring tights. It is true that the cheap wool pair of trousers is an horrid thing in all climes. The problem is essentially that one's John Thomas knows not on which side of the inseam to drape itself and becomes a restless thing. Whereas tights are a second skin.
However, for street wear, the tights are altogether too frank an admission of size.
American "Levi's" blue jeans come to the rescue, giving John Thomas a place to rest while being less frank. _________________ Publish and be damn'd |
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marcus_schuetz
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 41 Location: Yung Shue Wan
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: Lamma prolongs the "Axis of Evil" |
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Lamma is prolonging the "Axis of Evil"! Sure, Mary also saw some people that looked like they are working on "the bomb". Or do you really think this is a coal power plant?
Cheers,
Marcus
P.s. Good we have no oil field here, otherwise the US Marines would land tomorrow, I guess. _________________ _____________________
http://web.me.com/marcus_schuetz/Site/Home.html |
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foreign body over 200 messages posted

Joined: 07 Dec 2002 Posts: 299 Location: yung shue long
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Maybe our Lamma residents should post evidence of their fashion crimes to ward off people like "Mary".
For inspiration, check this out
http://www.sandalandsoxer.co.uk/home.htm |
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YeahMan
Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| Well, it's quite clear that Mary has the business end of a broom lodged somewhere uncomfortable and obviously had a bad experience here on this peaceful little rock. And why copy/paste someone from years ago other than to rile up the crowd? Seems like some sick form of entertainment, one step up from gladiatorial combat. |
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foreign body over 200 messages posted

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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| or maybe "Mary" is an old Lammaite worried that the rent of her/his flat might go up if the demand increases. A ruse to scare off those ESL teachers who might be planning to move to Lamma? |
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toddy over 400 messages posted


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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Spinner wrote: <<My pet fashion peeve: some damn sort of *fatwa* seemed to have been issued by the Fashion industry circa 1997 that "men may no longer expose the upper thigh>>
That fatwa is directed uniquely at fatwads.
and: <<If anyone is either sexually aroused or made ill by my upper leg, it is his or her responsibility to deal with it.>>
Which upper leg are you talking about?
and: <<But even a Brazilian Bikini covers the sloppy parts, which may be defined as those parts, apart from the mouth and nose, that conduct fluids.>>
If a part normally conducts solids is it also sloppy? |
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soundbydesign over 200 messages posted


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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: Socks n' Sandals .. |
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Dear L-G Et Al.
I can ignore the futile anonymous comments on this lovely site but Socks & Sandals are a No No. The United Nations [Gawd Bless 'em] have banned socks with sandals along with human-powered transport. Should you insist continuance then I'll send in the Bushes.
Please stop?
Or I shall email my verurucas too.
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Lamma-Gung Site Admin, Webmaster, Lamma-zine Editor

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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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Did you mean Verrucas, warts on the soles of your feet? Socks&sandals wearers are protected from those. I never had a verruca.
As long as we get guys dressed in nothing but shorts and flip flops running up and down High Street all day long, I don't think we need to listen to any local fashion advice.
Actually, giving fashion advice to anybody is very un-Lammaesque and is absolutely unwelcome. Violators will be subjected to getting fashion advice from all their friends and being subjected to a merciless ridiculing themselves... _________________ Click here for new Lamma-zine stories and recent Photos of the Day and Artworks of the Day |
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tjungarayi over 400 messages posted


Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 496 Location: An island in Pacific ocean
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: mankini madness |
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Did anyone else see that group of guys wearing 'pink mankinis at the power station beach yesterday? Quite a sight - about five of them playing leapfrog in the sand - all in their mid twenties.
So I guess Alan and LG's sandals and socks fashion statements are mild and conservative in comparison.
I hear you can buy mankini's in assorted colours and sizes at Marks and Spencers. _________________ Age. Fac ut gaudeam |
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tricia55
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Location: Vancouver Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: Layabouts, Ne'er Do Wells and Complete Psychos? |
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Wow at last someone has written truth about Lamma. The article is if she/he had picked my brain. If I could put words to paper as well as Mary I would have written the article exactly.
The person that wrote this would most possibly not live on Lamma anymore because you only face the truth of the Island once you leave because you do not have to face the wrath of people if making a wrong statement while living there. When living on the Island you say one bad thing and within minutes you will notice the difference in peoples attitude. It is not easy having fingers pointing at you and being shunned.
I am sure Mary like many lived and enjoyed this wonderful Island. I mention wonderful because of the beauty it holds and experiencing the lifestyles of the indigenous people.
I am not mentioning ex-pat because I experienced what the writer quotes “It is a cliché place.” How true that is.
I had a group of what I would say were friends and they kept my days happy but even these friends were what the writer wrote about. I believe the ex-pats that reside there have their noses to close to the ground to see the truth.
My most enjoyable time on Lamma was because I mixed with the indigenous people. The people that belong to the Island, the people that only accept the ex-pat because it brings income to there dead fishing industry. Ask them about how much they enjoy having you all there.
I could write so much about your wonderful Lamma it would shock you all but this site is not the place.
Ask the Hong Kong ex-pat what they really think of Lamma. I lived in Hong Kong for 20 odd years and every time I mentioned about buying a place there nobody said “Gosh that would be great” I was warned away from it.
I do not see any bad in what was written because it is the truth and the few decent replies I read have agreed with Mary's different issues.
I know there is a high percentage of younger computer friendly people following this site and I know there are many people’s people living on or have moved off Lamma whom do not have a say on what Mary wrote but I would love to read a reply from those wonderful people that have resided on Lamma for over 20-years that watched the changes on the ex-pat community living there. I am sure it would be a learning experience.
I live in a seaside village now and it is more honest and a more realistic lifestyle then Lamma with no daily pressure.
If anybody clicks on who I am then they will understand why I reply TO THIS article. For all the help I gave to people and animals in the three years residing there, I never received one Thank You.
Therefore whoever you are Mary "You go girl" you made my day. _________________ TCharlebois |
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chuckm over 300 messages posted


Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 343 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Wow! . Go away for a few weeks' vacation (and glorious self-imposed isolation from the Internet) and what do I jump into upon return? ... one of the most enjoyable threads I've seen in a while.
As someone who can only dream of having a part-time retirement residence on Lovely Lamma (well, at least until my ship comes in), I must say that the initial posting which started this fuss was a bit off-putting until I realized it must have been written by someone with either an oversized chip on the shoulder or a severely-warped sense of humour. Perchance he/she was bitten by one of the dogs and transformed into something from a horror flick?
Afraid of stepping on a dog egg in the dark? Buy a small flashlight for heaven's sake ... they're cheap. And wear socks with your sandals.
My apologies to the original poster, but you have not changed my view of Lamma as one of the more interesting and human places on this earth to live, despite your obvious fear of diversity and distaste for occasional inconvenience.
There, I feel better now . Oh, I forgot to ask ... how many years ago was this plagiarized rant written?? _________________ Lead me not into temptation;
I can find it myself, thank you. |
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spinoza1112 over 600 messages posted


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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| toddy wrote: | Spinner wrote: <<My pet fashion peeve: some damn sort of *fatwa* seemed to have been issued by the Fashion industry circa 1997 that "men may no longer expose the upper thigh>>
That fatwa is directed uniquely at fatwads.
and: <<If anyone is either sexually aroused or made ill by my upper leg, it is his or her responsibility to deal with it.>>
Which upper leg are you talking about?
and: <<But even a Brazilian Bikini covers the sloppy parts, which may be defined as those parts, apart from the mouth and nose, that conduct fluids.>>
If a part normally conducts solids is it also sloppy? |
I refer to the concept of the two, what they have in common, of course,
As to your second question: I gotta run, so, no comment. (Gotta "run", get it, nudge fudge?) _________________ Publish and be damn'd |
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spinoza1112 over 600 messages posted


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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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tricia55: sorry to burst a bubble here, but who are the "indigenous" people? The Han Chinese, who came down here from the north? The few pure-blooded Hakka who remain? Or is there a tribe on Lamma of people who have been here, practicing their folk-ways, since Neolithic times? A tribe of Jungle Women perhaps gonna get me? The Triad homeboys who swear an oath to bring back da Ming, and wrest the land from the Manchurian rats?
The apparent misuse of the word indicates that you might have a bad case of political correctness, which may cause you (I'm going out on a limb here) to despise, specifically, the devil-figure of the original poster, the Western male, Lamma edition, damn his eyes and rot his boots.
He appears as a caricature to be counterposed to virtuous "indigenous" people who would be prancing about like fauns in Arcadia were it not necessary for them to rob the Western homeboys.
The problem with this picture is that your "indigenous" folk, if they are Chinese, don't prance about like fauns in Arcady. Europeans did that. The Chinese cluster in villages, cities and towns, and try to get rich, as a general rule, don't they?
I suggest that while it's possible to paint me an angel, it's best not to paint so broad a picture of that old serpent, and represent him as of any one ethnicity, and blame him for the pain of living and the drug of dreams. _________________ Publish and be damn'd |
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Alan Discussions Forum Moderator

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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Layabouts, Ne'er Do Wells and Complete Psychos? |
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| tricia55 wrote: | Wow at last someone has written truth about Lamma. ....
I am sure Mary like many lived and enjoyed this wonderful Island. ...
Therefore whoever you are Mary "You go girl" you made my day. |
As noted earlier, "Mary" copied her article from a rant by an old fart ESL teacher, a who evidently visited Lamma one afternoon about 10 years ago. At least half of the story is demonstrably untrue, the rest a matter of opinion. |
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