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minibeast
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 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: Lammarina story |
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| Lamma-Gung wrote: | Want to know a lot more about the Lammarina below the DickStock house?
A recent 3-page story in a Chinese magazine, click below, scanned & submitted by a Very Alert Reader:
Page 1, page 2, page 3 |
from the map on page 2, it looks like there are going to be seven marinas on lamma. can this really be true? |
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zep
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Could anyone summarise the content in English? |
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Lamma-Gung
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Just asking the Official Court Translator...
When summarised, we can continue this discussion in the English forums.
Sorry, Samson, for intruding in your turf here...
| minibeast wrote: | | from the map on page 2, it looks like there are going to be seven marinas on lamma. can this really be true? |
Planned locations only, but yes, it's true and the land has been purchased already, including the flat stretch besides Sham Wan turtle beach. But it'll take quite a few years to get the building permissions, if ever, as there's some resistance by locals to these non-natives planning to build so much, instead of locals building more Village Houses to sell or rent out.
These plans, especially for South Lamma have also been confirmed to me personally by some local senior police. I'll have to grab a hold of Bobby Lee one of these days...
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Guy MIller
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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But isn't all of S.Lamma some sort of protected area?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Lamma-Gung wrote: | | Planned locations only, but yes, it's true and the land has been purchased already, including the flat stretch besides Sham Wan turtle beach. |
Purchased? No one can purchase land here. The tannery site was the first and only land available commercially for sale, and that was auctioned publicly about 1996, if I recall. The developer has probably made some deal with the traditional owners, (who do not have freehold) but that's a long way from getting permission to build anything, even a village house. Look at Shalotung where the developer has been trying to builld a resort for about 20 years. |
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Lamma-Gung
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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You're right, Alan, that's what I actually meant and it'll be very difficult to get building permissions for this off-island developer.
But there's always the possibility of rezoning and the government selling more land
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There are also suggestions in the Chinese press about residential development of some of the huge Old Quarry area opposite Sok Kwu Wan. Just suggestions so far, no plans yet, but the Planning Dept's Lamma master plan (see my blog: Oct 31) mentions this as well as a possibility. Trying to get more details.
But let's move to the English forums...
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minibeast
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| It'd be a real shame if the old quarry was used for residential building. It's such a nice peaceful place to go for a walk and watch all the kites circling above. Lots of nice water birds as well. |
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Lamma-Gung
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject: Lammarina - Artist's Impression |
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Back to that Chinese 3-page article on the Lammarina and the developer's other ambitious plans for our fair isle:
There's an artist's impression in that article of how it's supposed to look like, omitting a few "unimportant background details", like the Power Station chimneys...
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| minibeast wrote: | | It'd be a real shame if the old quarry was used for residential building. It's such a nice peaceful place to go for a walk and watch all the kites circling above. Lots of nice water birds as well. |
Its a complete shame that there are plans to 'develop' those areas of South Lamma at Tung O and Yung Shue Ha. If you still have my photos that I gave to you last year Lamma-gung, perhaps you can pick out some to put on the website to show what these plans will potentially obliterate. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:54 pm Post subject: Mad |
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| This guys going to go bust, no ones going to pay $ 15 million plus for a house on Lamma. Justgo over the hill and you can buy for 3 million or less. Its another sea ranch . All the other sites will require permission to change of usr from agricutural , I don't think its the government policy to encourage development on Lamma. 15 years ago it was rumoured that a lot of agricultural land behind spicy had been bought by big companies, but nothing ever came of it. The tannery was different it was an industrial site and was trashed with toxic chemicals - of course the hk govt would sell it as residential land , on hot days you'll be able to smell the delicous aromas of chemicals and death. |
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Birdface
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| Quote: | | $ 15 million plus for a house on Lamma |
really??!! Yau mou gaau cho?? |
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Property on Lamma is overpriced. Would you buy property on an island where it's residents and visitors use it as a toilet for their pooches?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Mad |
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| nobby wrote: | | This guys going to go bust, no ones going to pay $ 15 million plus for a house on Lamma. |
I went by there the other day. Nice location. I guess there might be a few buyers at 2 or 3 million. The only market I can imagine for higher priced homes is the company-owned holiday home for corporate execs to share. But they aren't stupid. There's so many nice places on Lantau at reasonable prices.
One thing that would bother me about buying a home on Lamma is that when you walk around the island it seems like it is one big extended graveyard. I wonder how many homes have been build on top of former graves. Maybe all of them? Kinda creepy. |
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Foxy
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F-X wrote:
One thing that would bother me about buying a home on Lamma is that when you walk around the island it seems like it is one big extended graveyard.
You're right there. They exhumed three graves at the old tannery site before starting construction. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Mad |
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| F-X wrote: | | the island it seems like it is one big extended graveyard. I wonder how many homes have been build on top of former graves. Maybe all of them? Kinda creepy. |
Lamma has been inhabited for at least 3000 years. Relics often turn up in excavations, and I expect many developers hide or destroy more so their work won't be held up. Near PSB there are several ancient foundations excavated and studied a few years ago, now covered over again to preserve them.
Last week on ATV there was a documentary about Paris, how in the 18th C the graveyards in the centre of the city were literally overflowing. Eventually, to avoid disease and allow the land to be used, they dug up the rotting corpses, added some lime to strip off the flesh and moved the bones to catacombs on the then outskirts. I expect almost every city more than a few hundred years old is built over graves. |
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Ah, that may explain the recent riots then. Angry spirits driving the locals to madness.  |
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Guy MIller
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| F-X wrote: | | Ah, that may explain the recent riots then. Angry spirits driving the locals to madness. |
Missed that.............. which bar was it this time?
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: Luxurious Lamma apartments available around Mid-Autumn |
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| Samson - Official Court Translator, summarising and translating a "Lammarina" story in Sing Tao Daily (Tue, 16 May 2006) wrote: |
Luxurious Lamma apartments available around Mid-Autumn
Developers of the “Lamma 1” recently said the luxurious housing project is expected to go on sale around the Mid-Autumn Festival this October.
Mr. Bobby Lee, Managing Director of King Wong Group, pointed out that “Lamma 1” will have 11 houses in three different sizes – 2,300, 3,500 and 4,200 sq. ft.
With an asking price of $8,000 per sq. ft, the minimum price for a house at “Lamma 1” is expected to be around $18 million. He went on to say that four or five houses might be made available for rent at $80,000 per month.
According to Mr. Lee, the simple interior design and décor follows a Mediterranean design blueprint. |
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| Quote: | | minimum price for a house at “Lamma 1” is expected to be around $18 million. He went on to say that four or five houses might be made available for rent at $80,000 per month. |
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