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Lamma-Gung Site Admin, Webmaster, Lamma-zine Editor

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject: Wind turbine to be built in Tai Ling |
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I just got a tip about HK Electric's project profile for "Renewable Energy by a wind turbine System on Lamma Island".
It's a demo/educational project with only one wind turbine, just 250m away from Tai Ling Village, along the ridge after Tai Peng. It was selected from 6 potential location, incl Tai Peng, Pak Kok and the power station itself.
Almost 100 metres high, incl. blades, at an elevation of 90m above sealevel, 89 tons, brightly coloured to kill less birds, this will be seen from much of the island. Building will start before end of this year, most likely. The project is with the Environmental Impact Assessment division of the EPD now, "exhibited for the public to comment" by email feedback form, till April 6 only: http://www.epd.gov.hk/eia
Does anybody know more about this project? Has anybody local been notified or consulted? Potentially a very interesting project, I'll try to get more info from HK Electric directly.
The 12-page, very readable and illustrated project profile is at:
http://www.epd.gov.hk/eia/register/profile/latest/esb112.pdf
For a great general discussion on wind power on Lamma:
http://www.lamma.com.hk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1141 _________________ Click here for new Lamma-zine stories and recent Photos of the Day and Artworks of the Day |
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Snake Path over 100 messages posted


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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:52 am Post subject: |
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From the map that looks like it is right next to the top of the short cableway, just opposite the hill trail (sometimes called Snake Path, but not by everyone) that was going to be concreted a couple of years ago.
Speaking of that trail: There are some red paint markings on the ground at the start of it. Does this mean that the concreting is going ahead even though it was supposedly shelved some time ago? Or are those markings something to do with the Hash runners?
Alan, surely you know something? |
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Alan Discussions Forum Moderator

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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| Snake Path wrote: | | From the map that looks like it is right next to the top of the short cableway, just opposite the hill trail (sometimes called Snake Path, but not by everyone) that was going to be concreted a couple of years ago. |
Yes, that's where it is. Have a look at the PDF linked, it has some larger scale maps. If that's all they built, I could live with it. Hopefully it's just a testbed for windmills in remote places with no mains power -- since we have our own coal burning plant already we hardly need it. I would hate for the whole central ridge of Lamma to be populated with these -- the access roads would devastate the place, aside from the towers themselves.
| Snake Path wrote: | | Speaking of that trail: There are some red paint markings on the ground at the start of it. Does this mean that the concreting is going ahead even though it was supposedly shelved some time ago? Or are those markings something to do with the Hash runners? |
The Hashers usually use white chalk, I think. Keep your eye out for any signs on the path or notices in town. |
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Lamma-Gung Site Admin, Webmaster, Lamma-zine Editor

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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: Closeup map |
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Yes, that's exactly where the wind turbine will be built later this year, very top of the cable road, almost at the top of the hill.
See close-up map from the report.
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Richard

Joined: 30 Jul 2002 Posts: 35 Location: Saddleworth, UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Lamma-Gung
If there is a photo on the CD-ROM I gave you titled 'October 10 2003-02' then you already have a picture of the area.
Looking up the path at the top the area where the windmill will stand is on the right.
If you don't have that photo let me know and I'll send you a copy.
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Lamma-Gung Site Admin, Webmaster, Lamma-zine Editor

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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Richard,
Couldn't find any October 10 photo, but there's one from October 01 in your "Power Station Road Above Tai Peng " directory. I assume it's this one:
Who knew that your CD-ROM full of Lamma photos you gave me recently would come in handy so quickly! Another reason why you've been honoured as "Contributor of the Month" in the new Lamma-zine... _________________ Click here for new Lamma-zine stories and recent Photos of the Day and Artworks of the Day |
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Snake Path over 100 messages posted


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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| LG, Sorry that's the wrong road. |
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Richard

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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| I've sent the correct photo to LG just now. I can't post it myself as I have no photo editing software on the computer I am using and it's a really big picture. |
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Lamma-Gung Site Admin, Webmaster, Lamma-zine Editor

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Richard

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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| It's on the right side of the path as the camera points, at the top. |
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Snake Path over 100 messages posted


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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| The path sometimes known as Snake Path would be on the left at the top of that photo, after the turn off to Lo Dik Wan. The proposed site would be where Richard says, to the right of that photo. We probably won't even see the windmill from the village. It will be behind the hill that got burned last week. |
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Samson Chin. Forum Co-Moderator

Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1886 Location: 沙埔舊村
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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So the wind turbines will be seen from YSW?
Does anyone know what other support infrastructure are required? I mean, access roads, cables etc. How and when will all those be built? |
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zep Flora & Fauna Moderator

Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 788 Location: Tai Peng
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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According to the indicated spot on the map the site appears to be to the LEFT of the path. At any rate, it seems to be in a depression between two hills, probably where the wind is channelled up the cable path from the sea.
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bbdog over 100 messages posted


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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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From the write-up
"As heavy trucks and mobile cranes will be required
for transportation and erection of the wind turbine, construction of any new access road will cause significant disruption to the existing landscape."
I think that means road building and ripping up of large areas of landscape. A total eyesore as well.
"The whole project will be planned and implemented by HECs in-house staff
together with consultants and contractors. Site erection will commence in late 2005 and commissioning of the project is scheduled for early 2006." |
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Doggy over 200 messages posted


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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ach, we'll just slap it up on Lamma and see how it goes. No one will mind much.
Reminds me of Scotland and the poll tax. _________________ And a rinky dinky doo to you too! |
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bbdog over 100 messages posted


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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I can't see any consultation exercise or how they have procured the land. Some more quotes from the document:
"The species of shrub at the vicinity of site are unknown but can be easily avoided if identified to be the protected or rare plants. The impact to ecology is expected to be negligible."
Is this the kind of thorough going over expected of these projects?
"The birds found at Lamma are mostly local species and will soon
familiar with the changes of features in their living environment. It is expected that the proposed development will have insignificant impact to birds."
But in the meantime expect to see new additions to the menu on Lamma eateries |
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Richard

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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| At the time I took the photo the area was already dug up a bit further down. The Water Supplies Department (WSD) were carrying out some pretty major upgrading works or something at the covered reservoir. The whole area around the reservoir was a big works site. |
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Alan Discussions Forum Moderator

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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| bbdog wrote: | | I think that means road building and ripping up of large areas of landscape. A total eyesore as well. |
| HKE wrote: | The construction work involves setting up one wind turbine and two equipment huts, and laying of 50m of underground distribution cables. Only limited powered construction equipment will be used due to relatively small scale of the project and pre-assembled equipment.
The ground consists of bare granite with vegetation covering on thin soil. The foundation of wind turbines and equipment huts will require an area of approximately 15m x 15m and 10m x 3m respectively. The new power cable will be buried underground and the disturbance to vegetation will be kept minimal. |
They say that this site can use the cable road for access, so no roadworks. The worry is that they might build a string of them along the ridge, which would make a mess of the countryside.
Their justification for this project is: "Lamma is an outlying island suitable for harnessing renewable wind energy for consumption by the islanders." Which might make sense if we didn't have an enormous coal plant already (I don't think they plan to remove that). |
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Alan Discussions Forum Moderator

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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| Richard wrote: | | At the time I took the photo the area was already dug up a bit further down. The Water Supplies Department (WSD) were carrying out some pretty major upgrading works or something at the covered reservoir. The whole area around the reservoir was a big works site. |
They're replacing the pipes from there that run beside the path that comes out near the kindergarten. That plan was put on noticeboards a few months ago. |
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Lamma-Gung Site Admin, Webmaster, Lamma-zine Editor

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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:56 am Post subject: |
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I just did a little photo shoot up in Tai Ling.
This photo was taken from the "pagoda", just above the end of the 2nd Cable Road, just above the covered reservoir and Tai Ling Village. Wind turbine location in yellow, just below the peak:
View from top of the very windy hill in the above picture, after climbing up the path on the left. The recently burnt hillside has started to grow back after the recent torrential rains. The top half of the turbine, the propeller, will be visible from much of North Lamma, including YSW. Click photo to enlarge.
View in the other direction, towards the "pagoda", Luk Chau and HK Island (photo by David Kerr, taken during better weather). Wind turbine location in yellow, visible fully from HK Island and the East Lamma Channel. It'll become a future "landmark" of Lamma Island:
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