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An Alert Reader (and mother) just sent me this note from the Democracy Fence (opposite the Democracy Wall), from the villagers and the SNAKES of Yung Shue Long Old Village. This most curious notice raises a lot of questions:

It's in English, most unusual for a notice like this, no Chinese at all, so obviously addressed at non-Chinese-speaking children and their parents?

How did they get permission to speak on behalf of the snakes?

Where is the area in Yung Shue Long Valley they're talking about? The Old Farmer's Field at the beginning or the fields at the end of the valley?
Where else, closer to the area, is this notice being displayed?

Any feedback from the children being accused of stealing tools and, most dastardly, disturbing the peaceful, wintering snakes which are now stirring and becoming more active soon again, ready to defend this private land by attacking playful children?

How are these snakes being rewarded for their guard duties of this private land, being fed with mice, perhaps?

How will the police react if the land owners complain to them about children disturbing the snakes?
They'd be most likely to thank the children for informing them and then get on with catching and/or killing the snakes?


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Another Lamma NutJob


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Playing toy guns


Maybe some group of local kids, or tourists, is playing wargames on the farmland, with those guns that shoot plastic beads?


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'War Games' and kids and adults carrying 'plastic toy guns' are becoming common over the past few weeks!

The other night the dogs were barking all over the area near Power Station beach.

There were three young men who were making a racket when I got to the beach, and I asked what they were doing as dogs were barking everywhere.

They told me they were playing 'War games'. I asked them to at least go out onto the beach, and not to do this near homes that have dogs, as it just makes the area so noisy,... dogs are protecting their homes, and you are freaking them out. (How long before a dog bite.... and I would be on the side of the dog if this happened!)

They agreed, thanked me, and went out near the shoreline to play, and the noise stopped.

This morning on Power Station beach, the dogs that I were with were a bit 'agitated' with 'workers' that were hanging around. When I passed I saw that the 'adults' had 'toy guns' . (Hope they were toy guns!!) that were modelled on AK47's, and they were shooting away.

I asked them please not to do that with kids and animals around, as it's disturbing. They said 'OK'.

I've seen a lot of this lately.


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Believe it is in the middle of the valley.

I was walking along the valley path a& saw a "new" beaten path leading into the undergrowth to an area I had long cherished to check out the birdlife..., but alas was always too dense..... so I followed the path.

Was interesting...... came across a whole "little ppl" village.... with paths, and several little houses fashioned out of banana tree clumps & those intrusive weeds, and lots of toy gun pellets..... was fascinating... the kids must've been having a whale of a time.
Can probably sympathise with the neighbours, but it all looked like a great adventure playground.
Farmland?......... nowhere near & nowhere to be seen... although I didn't check out the full extent of the playground.

Anyway.... thanks kids.... once you are back at school..., i'll be there.... you made some great hides, the birds will return... is a real treasure trove..... and better than dealing with the grumpy "Trashlady" at the end of the valley, who took exception to one of my hides & removed it, & all the natural bird perches near to her tiny plot.
(The "Trashlady" should not be confused with the lovely "Lilylady")


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Any photos of the "little ppl village"? Or do you shoot birds only? :wink:

Great to hear that you're leaving your Birdographer's Garden these days, checking out the rest of Lamma birdlife outside your private Sanctum Sanctorum.

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Yes, I too have seen the children running around playing war games with their guns and making quite a racket too! They were playing in the undergrowth near the old lily pond. my hubby and I commented on how many of the kids had toy guns and how destructive they all seemed to be. the farmers son seemed quite perturbed with them running about and shouted at them a few times. We met another group of 'soldiers' coming down the hill with their guns too! The following day the war games were continuing in the valley through the farmers field. It has been the holidays, and kids will be kids, but i must say these realistic looking guns really creep me out!


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Why the hell play in a farmer's field?

There are so few farms left still under cultivation, and 95% of Lamma is countryside, including quite a lot of places they could have challenging battles.


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Someone must have been quite upset to resort to this kind of public appeal to protect his or her property and crops. Selecting English? To reach Lammaites.
In many places, especially paint balls games had to be restricted to closed, dedicated areas. Otherwise is a menace.


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Its just kid's being kids, they are all local Lamma kids from across the nationality spectrum. They built a few 'dens" and waged a few "wars" and their excited shouting may have disturbed a few people. Nothing destructive or malicious about it and they are back at school now!

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i confirm Greenman's observations.
It was just Lamma kids having a good time outside instead of sitting in front of a computer and stuffing themselves with snacks.

Actually i was very pleased when i saw them, they gave me hope for the future (they were engaging with nature, rather than being naturophobic like many kids in HK)
They reminded me of my favourite book as a child. The Paal Street Boys.

All kids should have the right to play unsupervised games outdoors, get dirty, build tree houses, fight over their turf, etc. It's all very healthy.

I don't mind children shouting, i very much prefer their vitality to the sound of jack hammers, power drills and tiles being smashed.


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These games remind me a lot of what we were playing at primary school age, building dams and tree houses in the forest, going down rivers in home-made wooden floats, climbing tall fir trees to the very top, making our own bow and arrows and tomahawks and stage fights of Cowboys vs. Indians....

This campaign isn't over yet, new posters have appeared on the Democracy Fence (opposite the Democracy Wall at the ferry pier), titled HALT in huge letters!

I just had a quick read while returning from town after the "Lamma Power Station tour for Lammaites" I got organised this morning.
The HALT poster sounds very seriously anti-international children, even inflammatory, but I'm not sure yet what it's trying to accomplish.

Have a read yourself on the way to or from the ferry.
Sorry, no picture of this HALT poster yet, maybe tomorrow....

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Judging by the syntax and discourse I would suggest that the writer of the notice is not Chinese, but is pretending to be. Hence also the absence of a translation.

I don't like rudeness, but I think dogs here cause a bigger breach of the peace than humans. See my new topic on the matter.


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Shapogung,

You might well be right.

It looks like a reaction to and a parody of the first STOP poster, see above. Quite creative, actually!
Can we expect a little war of words via posters on the Democracy Fence?

The poster below calls for an assembly at the Library last night, Saturday, 6pm.
By chance, I was walking home from the 5:50pm arrival ferry yesterday and I didn't see anybody outside the Library at all, not even a "protest organiser".

Kind of a pity, local vigilantes fighting against international students occupying the Kamikaze caves, that would have made quite a sensational Lamma-zine story... :roll:


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Actually I think the original message was penned by a westerner as well. Just an attempt at a wind up, I imagine.

If it really was a villager who was objecting, you wouldn't be reading a message, you'd be climbing a fence.


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Notice that next to this "peaceful and beautiful private land" recently there has been many truckloads of construction waste spread all over the former farmland.
No complaints from the "Villagers and snakes of Yung Shue Long".

Perhaps someone is constructing a warfare playgound? A recreation of Stalingrad, 1942?

Maybe the idea is tourists can rent sniper rifles and chase each other through the rubble.

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This is the area where I heard they were going to construct a house, right on the pathway!


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This is the area where I heard they were going to construct a house, right on the pathway!


First they have to destroy any agricultural use, then a few years later petition to have the land use changed.


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hence the dumping of construction waste.


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