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So does this mean that you won't be joining your fellow Lammaites in a celebratory National Day dinner on Sep 24, a yearly extravaganza with over 40 tables in Aberdeen for which the ferry companies will put on extra ferries to shuttle the hundreds of patriotic Lammaites from Yung Shue Wan and Sok Kwu Wan to Aberdeen and back?

These events are so popular that some of HK's top politicians will show up and there was another separate National Day dinner for all Outlying Islanders a few days ago as well. Some Lammaites seem to attend both, I've heard, even though they have to pay for it themselves, $200-250, but I've never been to one yet.

Yes, your dear little island is an integrated part of the PRC now and our local powers-that-be know all too well where the real power is situated these days and who to please and give lots of face to....

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Even though I won't, I don't mind the national day per se, it's just disappointing to see the advertisement for an evil regime, especially one placed so badly.

There's even some irony that a regime that has destroyed traditional culture in Mainland China places that kind of banners on the road leading to some of the few remaining spots of such culture, such as the O Tsai village.

We don't have any restaurants on Lamma?



Surely it should be October 1st? What's the point of it if it's on the wrong date?




It didn't take long for the landlord class to get back on top of the heap in China. And here, they never were discommoded at all.

There are a few real estate dealers who would merit a little "airplane" time.

Have seen the huge banner. Can't read Chinese but can see the numeral "62"

Assuming it's the 62nd Anniversary of PRC....

Admitting I could be wrong btw!!!!!

Sorry... can't celebrate that.

How quickly we forget when money is involved. China is mega rich now, so we all bow down (well most people anyway)

Cultural Revolution.. the Great Leap Forward,.... millions starved to death due to fikng stupid policies.... I could go on...

I could have accepted the sign if it was just a 'celebration ' as in many celebrations... but I don't think it is.

Who paid the money for this sign anyway?? Me? The taxpayer? Who was responsible for spending the money on this sign? Ms. Fan??

Bollocks... money should have been spent on infrastructure on this island!!

Nothing new, it's an annual erection they have - sometimes it gets decorated with "Free Tibet" stickers which is fun

That's a great idea!

I though it was their 90th aniversary. Have I stepped into some time warp when I walked off the pier.

Anyways, I wonder if some wacky person could oh I don't know spray paint, a statical report, of how many people have died to build the "New China" (1989-present), for instance when Shenzhen opened for business... Changing the lives of Many Chinese for instance. Oh like say a bunch of "I"-makers, jumping off Ipod city's roof. (Terry Gou, I honestly hope Tin Hau herself wears a BDSM suit and gets mideval on your buttocks. No Soup for you!).

The head count roughly tabluates to 5.2 Million plus! this person still hasn't scrutinized backlogged sources Yet... he was too busy sanding a cross, and cleaning a beach, going unplugged But he'll get right on it soon. He's going to make one of those plastic pleather banners and hang them up.

some notable deaths although a mere dew drop in the brackish waters of the Peral delta...
390,000 Infected from needles in 2004
68,000 AIDS (caused by a blood donor screw up and still rising).
200,000 (improper use of meds (anti biotics, not enough warning or announcements).
19,000, (2007), young Dawrin award club (young accidents).
69,197, (2008), Daofu buildings of Schezhwan, silly China, Tofu is for Granny Tofu's treats at To wan to.
1500+ (in 2010), The perfect storm, and perfect conditions for a human made catastrophe (bone headed ignorance of warnings from geologists, over cutting and unsustainable reparations to replenish vegitation to stop a land slide, a once in a life time storm (in this case literally).
600, tainted meds cause a rash of death in 2010.
386,645, painful deaths exposure to toxic factory goo in 2005
243, toxic natural gas leak in Chongqin (2003)
234, toxic natural gas leak in Chonqin ( not a typo in number, and again in 2003).
10 (2003-2008, Beijing Birdsnest stadium. alleged more much much much much much much more).

This just a sample of the carnage these past 20 years of "New China"

I posted in another forum wondering if this sign comes our tax money - if so, it should be bi-lingual, as everything else official is in HK.

Vanoclamma - can you also give us the stats/ breakdowns on how many associated deaths there were in the industrial revolutions in the rest of the world over the last two to three hundred years? Should their national days also be cancelled, or have no related celebratory signs?

>>>But the problem about China's industrial revolution is that the companies ARE the government, as such there is no incentive for them to do all these magical civil rights reforms, such as oh I don't know make it legal for machinery to have saftey or accountability so that rogue freelancing welders don't blow them or their Shanghai apartments up, or provide a really crappy weld job.

Like look at those death mobile, Wuling vans, or those Byrdies (BYD), and the 1 car, or Gerry, or Cherry, see no safety standards, also the point about deaths of industrializing periods. The Chinese should look at the mistakes that American and British corporations made (not because they're American, or British, context). These nations industrialized quickly but it was unprecedented and unexpected, and saftey standards (law process), human working conditions, or even improved mechianical engineering (example, who would have thought printing a bunch of skeletons on a bottle means "This is NOT Mountain Dew. DO NOT DRINK IT" or even the super plastic Saftey goggles. So China should have just taken this 180 years of extremely painful trial and error, and say oh dear, if we don't learn from this history we're going to repeat the same mistakes. That's all. Except, in China's case, they honestly don't give a flying sod, who gets hurt, just bribe open a factory, multiple times, go away and bribe again, when the shit hits the fan.

like look at Terry Gou of Foxconn! or the idiots who designed the haunted highway here in Hong Kong!.

Not including 5000, more or less, killed on June 4 1989.

The 'haunted highway' in Hong Kong? Do tell....

I'm assuming it's still standing (unlike so many on the mainland)

Actually there are conflicting numbers, this "dude's" report uses the 250,"Official" count, NATO considers 7000, and USSR's is 10,000 etc etc. According to our cherished Democracy where everyone probably didn't do it (benifit of the doubt, innocent until proven guilty), I use the lowest count.

For example, the Riots up in Urumiqi a recent while back, claimed 7000. while the government claimed 200 (197).

In the end however, When the CPC eats itself to death, (which really isn't going to be pretty "buddy's" is going to pull in alot of over time. ALOT of over time trying to calculate this.

because statistics is a very tricky science.

Rules Buddy follows: If it smells remotely like a stinky Red official, (example an axe murderer who was a gang member, and a serial killer no, but if that killer was an axe murderer, or knife murderer who had a WELL DOCUMENTED case of mental illness, (because of China's primitive mental health care services) then yes.

Acts of God like typhoons and earthquakes, wild fires, really freaky things not man made but Mother's fury. No it won't be included, HOWEVER in extreme cases, like say the Tofu squishy schools yes They are included. (because why did the cadre's nice apartments unscratched), while the villagers get stomped? in the case of 2008's Gansu floods, because the forestry industry ignored over and over again, protests of geologists, and clear cutted, (after evidence world wide indicated this was a stupid thing to do), oh look the "perfect" once in a Immortal Peach bloom (monkey king reference, for 9000 years peaches), the big one hit and 8000 thousand villagers died.


Disease is an act of God (a messed up act, another rant another time), now if it was caused by hospital stupidity, like say I don' t know, using germy needles to transmit AIDS blood, from RURAL china, where there are lots of KTV's and drug use.

Now a really tricky statistic the duder, encountered was bombs and terrorism, evil desperate acts designed to kill people. akin to murder 1st degree (planned), vs random spree psychosis, ie some teacher stabbing her 8 students to death kind of thing. This might be iffy, but it was included based on this rationale, that if there truly was a state of bliss in China and everyone lived a happy life eating magical peach immortality buns, with laughing Gung (not Lamma Gung), old gods and fairy angels floating on wings. Then why create such an angry statement, (such as bringing gasoline onto a plane, (and how in the hell did he get that through in the first place, he had it in a coke can, but surly some would smell the gasoline?!?, in that case he as suffering from cancer, and brought the plane down).

Auto accidents MIGHT be included, due to saftey standards (after the kid watched youtubes of crash tests of Wuling vans and Ones (those cars that say one on them). more like Dingaling, and None, and Bu Yao De (BYD), and Cherry popper, (after a piece of car goes up your you know where, before you die. The crash test's head spun around and around.

now factories and industrials, as the yearly Darwin awards and movie series " Finald Destination" points out, Shit happens... Just like driving drunk into a college student then taunting " My father is liiiiiii guannnnnggggg" (context: Drunk horney young teenager (you know where this is going), little Princling (children of Chinese officials), hits a girl roller blading, or that Piano Princling who jumped out of his car and stabbed this young mother to death after hitting her. (definatly the Foxxconn suicides were included (again rationale, if China was a heavenly paradise of magical exlirs and sakura cherry trees, then why kill yourself?, and if it's depresssion, why didn't the perfect state doctors patch you right up?). Also alot of the stated industrial accidents, like this Chain explosion in Shenzhen in the 90s which started from a cheap factory that had lax saftey standards, or some illegal mine are definatly included.

It was very difficult for Mr Sexy to write that report, especially since mentioning the stabbed students, or writing about some kid in a fat-brat-internat camp. That was very very disturbing to read, in a Heath Ledger explores his dark psyche to give us "New Joker" kind of disturbing.

I just hope this regime collapses, and juding by all it's bone headed obstinace of not learning from the West's mistakes, (which were human mistakes, that other worlds made, especially Rome), China's fate will be no different. Bad Karma is bad Karma. It's like this, you take a huge shit in your bed, while you sleep in it. Scientifically you suffer the rather messy and unhealthy, and unpleasant smelly consequences.

Tuen Mun Road. There's always accidents and heebee jeebees there. Probably as "haunted" as Calf Robe bridge (or the "S" bridge, which ices up in the winter, and idiotic Calgarians love to travel at warp factor 10, IN WINTER, just because the Deerfoot I mean Daytona 500 and Laman's, and Macao Grand prix"- Freeway (Deerfoot Freeway is also the Queen Elizabeth II highway (or Highway 2), and urban legend was Cree Indian Chief "Calf Robe", cursed the bridge to kill as many "whitey" as possible. (ignoring the fact that many Aborginals have many different ethnicities including Chinese now in their genetic alphabet Stew that spells "Kick ass awesome") Anyways, it's just unsafe driving, drunk driving, Sleepy driving, driving too fast.

amature unacademic essay writen by "some sexy dude who lives in Sha Po"

It's very unpolished and hard to read. IT's still in it's skeleton compilation add up mode. Also it's extremely hard to read because buddy rambles on with sarcastic commentaries, as if this was half a tally accounting ledger of death and half a essay about how really screwed up some Chinese have it in China,

Also note that some figures were added last minute, because while he was adding up one night, he ran into very enticing figures that just had to be added. It'll be a while before updating.




Sub Totals:
(Industrial deaths from 1989-present) 1,459,576
(Health”care” hell)3,281,000
(90's)2800
(00's):496,233
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5,239,599 (GRAND TOTAL of deaths since 1989- Present.





Notable frequency:  (If a location, or type of calamity occurs ALOT within say a few days, a few months, it's mentioned)
Companies: Foxcon Technologly group. 
places: Jilin, Shanghai, Beijing, and Anhui, Guizhou,SHENZHEN, GUANGZHOU.
Disaster types: coal fires, building collapse, teachers going crazy with knives (stabbings), Building fires. 
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1989- present:
"New China"...
 
Miscelanious deaths during this period

(Healtcare deaths). 3,281,000 (as of a sept,2011 tabulation, number has increased!).

-(Smoking deaths continous).
673,000 (2005);
600,000 (1989); 
 http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa0802902#t=articleResults
 
(second hand smoke, non smokers).
42,000 women (2002),
http://www.inforesearchlab.com/secondhandsmoke.chtml 


 *Although smoking is an individual choice, the Chinese government doesn't enforce smoking laws, also it once considered legislation for government employees to smoke a QUOTA of provincial smokes to boost up revenue through taxes, also keep in mind the main seller despite private enterprise IS THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT, who on the other hand is attempting to control this habit. Also Chinese tobbaco is 3 times more deadly than the strong Canadian ones.If the reds who CONTROL this product really wants to stop, surly they wouldn't add MORE toxins in right?
 
(more toxic smokes (http://www.peopleforum.cn/redirect.php?)fid=11&tid=39961&goto=nextoldset
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 68,000 AIDS, and presumably Hepitatus and other Blood borne STDS, (tainted blood of the 1990s, practice still rises), Scores more infected. 
http://post.jagran.com/aids-deaths-on-r ... 68000-13...
( A GOVERNMENTAL fuck up, however  currently most "blood Pimps" and selling is illegal!, and the blood donations are "safer" and secure) 
 

-1,148,000 (over a 4 year period, from 1995- 1999,)suicides,http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5322a6.html)

- 287,000, suicides. (2011, each year statistic). http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/c ... 117301.htm

-150,000 (women suicides), (2006)http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5086754.stm

-360,000 Tuberculosis in 1990
http://www.cgdev.org/section/initiative ... ved/stud...
 
-390,000 Infected from needles in 2004, all over rural China. (It' is not uncommon for the IV clinics to have people smoking in the sick bays also). Keep in mind drug abuse is also very rampant in rural and urban china. (honestly who can live here and be sober, after compiling this data, and the magnitude I feel as if I've taken hallucinogens, and my eyes are playing tricks on me). 
(http://www.china.org.cn/english/2004/Aug/103127.htm)
 
 -200,000 (2011), Improper knowledge of anti medication lack of precautionary education measures, bribes and medical corruption. http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2011/01/ ... 294275199/
1.8 Million children were made deaf from these meds as well.



Building the "New China" (industrial FUBARS)= 1,459,576
 -11,047 (2001)http://www.cecc.gov/pages/roundtables/110702/leung.php
-14,924 (2002) Industrials http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/EG26Ad01.html
-136,340 (2003) accidents)
-6,027 (2004) Coal miners.
-400,000 (2004)(work place illnesses) http://www.grin.com/en/doc/233630/the-v ... njury-life (chapter 1 page 5 of report)
127,000 industrial deaths, (2005). http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5294270.stm
-656,000 (dirty coal, and unstandard facilities) in 2007
<ref>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/07/070709-china-pollution.html</ref>
-95,600 polluted water 2007, polluted water http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ution.html
-12,638 (1993-1998) Fires! http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/dec2000/chin-d28.shtml
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  Isolated instances: Death according to year (eras are labeled occasionally). (Deaths by decade) 90's: (2,800). 2000's: 496,223.
 
1989- “New China”

1983-1989:  (Strike Hard Excutions) 24,000 (although "victims" were murderous criminals, it was a massacre purge), one of many purges in the future.
 
 -200 (confirmed, Chinese sources, mayor of Beijing, Chen Xitong-7000 (NATO). (wikipedia, Tianmen square article, using reliable statistics (186, deriving from a list from Tianenmen Mothers' , an advocacy group (often perscuted). http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 78,00.html 
186-7000

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1990
128 – Xiamen Airlines Flight 8301 (Guangzhou, China, 1990, Desparte moron hijacks plane)
 
 
1991
147 – coal mine (Sanjiaohe, Hongdong, Shanxi, China, April 21, 1991
 
1992
 
141 – China Southern Airlines Flight 3943 (Guilin, China) (24 November 1992, cheap repairs)


1993- (Shenzhen baby dragon wakes from her 20 year slumber, ready to engulf China and the world in a fiery inferno if fire, translation: The flag ship centrally planned city begins it's debutante of death, (check out Foxconn! and subsequent years Shenzhen will pop up ALOT)
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-79 The Linxi, in Tangshan Hubei, caught on fire, (substandard facilities, untrained welders). 
-81 Toy factory in Kuiyong, Shenzhen, locked doors fire, cheap bosses who can't stand losing 5 fucking cents per toy. http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1993_1166873/blaze-kills-81-in-south-china-toy-factory.html
-61 Fuzhou, Clothing factory fire. 
-70 Shenzhen, a CHAIN REACTION of factory explosions!!!! just like on sim city. (unsafe factory starndards originating from an ARMY OWNED factory, and thus authorities are lax on army factories).
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1994

93-Zuhai, clothing factory
234- Fuxin, Nightclub fire
 324-  Karamay, Karamay theater fire, little children incinerated, while watching a childrens' show. 
264 – China Airlines Flight 140 (Nagoya, 1994) (stupid inexperienced idiots flying a plane!)
160 – China Northwest Airlines flight 2303 (Near Xian, China, 6 June 1994, lazy repair men!)
52 – Hengyang railroad station stampede disaster, during Lunar New Year holidays of final day, Hengyang, Hunan, China, February 14, 1994
 
1995 
 6- Shuttle launch snafu
1- Jilin, Gunman enters school and shoots a bunch of kids. 
30- Anshan, Hotel catchs fire
 
1996 
91 – coal mine (Dongcun, Datong, Shanxi, China, 27 November 1996)
29 – Under constructing Baikong bridge collapsed, Ruyuan, Shaoguan, Guandong bridge.
 
1997
89 – coal mine (Xingsheng, Pingdingshan, Henan, China, March 11, 1997)
60 – coal mine (Beilongfeng, Fushun, Liaoning, China, May 28, 1997)
35 – China Southern Airlines Flight 3456 (Shenzhen, China) (8 May 1997)
127 – Rongjiawan trains disaster, (Hunan, China, 1997)
6- launch of Intelsat 708, (same problem as the same shuttle launch in 1995! but lands in a village, lots other injured) (wikipedia article Intelsat 708)
 



1998 (Case Zero of student stabbings by teachers by 2000's outbreaks like this) 
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202 – China Airlines Flight 676 (Taipei, 1998) (poor judgement, inexperienced, pilots bribed exams etc).
2- Ex soldier, stabs a bunch of kids (note this was the second stabbin
2-Henan, teacher goes crazy stabs kids (CASE ZERO! the first of MANY, student stabbings).
 http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=&art_id=42799&sid=&con_type=1&d_str=19981005&sear_year=1998
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1999:
 
61 - China Southwest Airlines Flight 4509, (Wenzhou, Zhejiang, China, 24 February 1999, wrong lug nuts!)
 
 
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2000 TEN YEARS OF FUCK!
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 311-Luoyang, Dongdu Building, CHRISTMAS!!! mostly teenagers at the Dongdu night club, careless workers caused a fire, teenagers trapped. 
162 – coal mine ,Muchonggou
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/do ... 397152.htm
11-Shenzhen building collapse
8- Xiamen, factory fire http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/55/666.html
 
2001
92 – coal mine (Gangzi, Xuzhou, Jiangsu, China, July 22, 2001
31-Coal mine (Heilongjiang)
12- Wenzhou, (a factory that was ordered to stop operating, dorm collapse)
 
 
2002
21 school children in dark hallway accident (faulty planning)
349- SARS (Guandong)
124 – coal mine (Chengzihe, Jixi, Heilongjiang, China, 20 June 2002
225 – China Airlines Flight 611 (Penghu Islands, 2002) (cheap repairs,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611)
128 – Air China Flight 129 (Busan, South Korea, 2002, stupid pilot)
112 – China Northern Airlines Flight 6136 (Dalian, China, 2002, suicidal passenger bringing get this GASOLINE onto a plane! Honestly there is something literally in the water (another post another rant I guess.)
 
 

2003
86 – coal mine (Luling coal mine, Hefei, Anhui, China, 13 May 2003
234 – PetroChina Chuandongbei natural gas field explosion, Guoqiao, Kai County, Chongqing, China, 2003
10 (2003-2008) officially 10 people died building the Birds' Nest Stadium, allegedly more. 
243-Natural Gas spewing everywhere in Chongqing
39-Tailing, Liaoning, Fireworks explosion (38 if you include the corrupt boss) corruption, fake ids, bribes, unsafe etc. Operated factory 3 times (all shut down! ), what a fucking way to celebrate New Years?

2004 (the coal mine and iron mine with in 6 DAYS, and toxic chemicals in the SAME PLACE (Chongqing) and Child stabbings You know that "Sharp minds" was just a figure of speech right? 
9- Clorine plant in Chongqing sprays fumes everywhere. (Cheap unmaintained obsolete equipment)
166 – coal mine (Chenjiashan, Tongchuan, Shaanxi, China, 28 November 2004
148 – coal mine (Daping, Tongchuan[disambiguation needed], Henan, China, 20 October 2004
55 – China Eastern Airlines Flight 5210 Baotou, Inner Mongolia, China, (2004, Morons forgetting to preform saftey matinance checks (ice on wing)
60 – Shahe iron mine caught fire, Hebei, China, November 22, 2004
42-Air Henan plane accident 
53-Jilin, market catches fire. 
9-Beijing, Groundskeeper goes crazy with a knife on school kids (stabbings occurred with in 4 months)
8- Ruzhou, nutty nut goes crazy with a knife in a dormatory... 
4-Linwu County, Teacher goes nutty and kills students with knife. 
31-Guangxi, Qinzhou, Fireworks explosion
1- Beijing, Guangyi, care taker goes crazy AGAIN with yep yep! a knife
2005 LOTS coal fires in just one year! Introduction of the execution van! 
2- Young girls trapped in a room allegedly survive accidental suffocation from a coal stove, allegedly buried alive, BEIXINZHUANG
59 – coal mine (Xishui mine, Shanxi province, China, 20 March 2005)
83 – coal mine (Shenlong, Fukang, Xinjiang Uygur, China, 13 July 2005)
214 – coal mine (Sunjiawan, Fuxin, Liaoning, China, 15 February 2005) http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Mine-bla ... 14552.html
5-Baicheng, coal mine fire oct 1
10-Longtan, coal mine accident (same day as Baicheng)oct 1
34-Henan, coal mine fire. (with in a day of Longtan and Bai Cheng!!!), oct.3
5- Jilin, Chemical plant blows up contaminates the Songhua river also.
171 – coal mine (Dongfeng, Qitaihe, Heilongjiang, China, 27 November 2005
123 – coal mine (Daxing, Xingning, Guangdong, China, 6 August 2005)
18-HARBIN, coal Mine explosion, CORRPUTION CORRUPTION. This one is total CPP this time. Saftey Official, party members arn't allowed to run side business (AHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH ha ha ha ha), party member ran a illegal side business, and listed it as a government controled mine, with lots of saftey issues.
1,770- Executions (introduction of mobile "execution mobiles" a nazi gas wagon. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006 ... -van_x.htm
386,645- Exposure to workplace chemicals (2005, data compiled). http://extras.sltrib.com/china/
12- Malnourishment fake Milk powder. <ref>http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200504/21/eng20050421_182172.html</ref>

2006
6-Students trampled in  school hallway (faulty design)
24 – Nanshan Colliery disaster (Shanxi Province, China, 13 November 2006)  (wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanshan_Colliery_disaster)
8000- Executed (Amnesty International citing alleged credible sources) 
9- Suqian, contaminated medication
11- Law breaking government official illegally stores TNT (Hazardous material), in his home, Laogaochuan village.
 
2007
181 – coal mine with flooding (Huayuan[disambiguation needed], Xintai, Shandong, China, August 17, 2007)
105 – coal mine (Ruizhiyuan, Linfen, Shanxi, China, 5 December 2007)\
60- Underconstructing Tuojiang bridge collapsed in Fenghuang, Hunan, China on August 13, 2007. (shitty construction)
2- (Foxcon, Apple makers), suicide
2- Bully students, fatally stabbed for extorting money from a student. Maoming, Guangdong, the self defending student paid his quota, and consulted with his teacher. The Teacner did nothing to help, (nor contacted the police). 
32-Qinghe Special Steel Corp (Laioning), burnt to death
19,000- (3000 University aged 16,000 Children), accidents... http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2007/07/unnatural-deaths-for-19000-students-china-daily/
1-Hengyang, man throws a bunch of kids out a window, (mental illness). 
1-Huiyuan,safety inspector, reporting on the safety of coal mines. 
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2008 ( China wins GOLD in death!) Olympic year.....
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 70- Zibo, trainwreck (undertrained drivers), shortly before the games. one of them was going to a city where one of the venues was going to be Tsingdao
 18-Anqui,  Trainwreck, a few months before the Zibo disaster
3- Sanlu Tainted Melamine milk (COUNTLESS  (tens of thousands)OTHERS SCREWED UP ORGANS, ie kidneys for life),
20- Tibetans killed NGABA PROTESTS
20- Chinese soldiers killed by Ugyhr separatists, August. 
-1718 (2008), Excutions (anmesty international) (374, of them during the OLYMPICS! 10 points for a swan dive after shot? Fuckers!)
16 – coal mine (Ningxia Hui, China, 16 October 2008)
254 – Illegal Tashan mine collapsed with mud-rock flow at Xiangfen, Linfen, Shanxi, China (September 2008)
17 – Ganglu Iron and Steel Co Ltd., gas leak (Hebei, China, December 24, 2008)
8-Shaanxi, Infants infected with primitive sanitation standards. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-10/13/content_7101255.htm
 -69,197 (of this 5600+ School Children (in cheap schools without rebar enforcement, Tofu) buildings,http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30611523/ns/world_news-asia-pacific/). It is possible for the Wenchuan Earthquake to have been caused by man, the 3 Gorges dam project, and the multiple hydrodams when engineering has not painstakingly been considered for "progress" and expediency. http://www.probeinternational.org/catal ... 9&cat_id=7
 
 42- Anhui outbreak  Case zero, of Hand-Foot-Mouth, disease. (spreading to other parts in China. You know that saying "Foot in mouth?" It's just an expression for Silliness; China.... They didn't mean you should do it literally lol. (under reported as it was the months leading up to the games). Also to note, that this the orgins of this pandemic. 
 
7-Yang Jia, a  mentally ill unemployed young man was savagely beaten for no reason, except riding a bicycle, when his attempts at justice failed. (big surprise), he attacked a police station. (he is one of the Olympic murders). 6 (police) and Jia, executed. Yang Jia is honoured by many Chinese youths. 
 
4- young Business students, jumped to death in their dorm of Shanghai business school caught fire, when simple safteys could have prevented (such as a sprinkle or fire hose on the floor). 
 
1- A month after the world saw the beautiful olympics. 6 Harbin police beat to death a 22 year old student waiting at a trainstation. He died of his murderous injuries in the cold of a Chinese autumn. (october), Lin Songling, was an Athlete. Ironic isn't it? This being the olympic year. 
 
1- Swimmer in Beijing, swallows a mouth full of poo water at the Mao Mao municipal swimming pool. The fecal-urine concentration was over 80% 
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2009. Suffer the innocent children.... It is better for you to throw rope with a rock around your neck into the sea, says Jesus on Child murder!
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 (Est) 2600-(OFFICIAL statistics for miner accidents) http://www.presstv.ir/detail/186243.html
8-Iron Mine collapse,Yongding County
8-Children caught in a stairwell trampled. Xiangxiang
200- Genocidal ethnic riots between Hans and Uyghristanis (Xinnang)
1- Foxconn's brute beating of an employee over a, misplaced IPOD prototype! caused a suicide
30-Gas mine accident in Chongcing
29-Mass murder suicide on a bus. Chengdu (economic stress, hardships, faulty emergency escapes, senor abuse, (family refuses to provide for an aging worker who has lost everything). 
2- A riot of ethnic discrimiation between migrant workers, Uyghirs and Hans)
85- Hand-Foot-Mouth Disease (35 of them Children across two provinces)
1- Woman stabs perverted Party official trying to rape her.Badong County (Deng the waitress IS THE ONCE SENT TO A MENTAL HOSPITAL). PS Communist China Fuck you
2- Security guard rape and murders  a woman, he is sentenced to death.
11-Danyang Trail repair shop blows up from unsafe Aluminium Nitrate, improperly stored when the shop was a processing plant. 
2-Mentally disabled woman kills two children, in Mazhan
 -74 Taiyuan, mine explosion.

1-Mother of a 3 year old child murdered by violent femme employees of  a hotel in Chengdu. OVER ONE FLOWER PEDAL. (Mental illness often not addressed in this Paradise for the people, the hotel settled 200,000 RMB, about 29,000 CND!!!!! Violence is not an uncommon solution over petty arguments, the Chinese LOVE to fight, this is a very statistically agreeable observeration). 
 1-Man hit by a drunk driving traffic cop in Guangzhou
5- worker dorm of a department store collapse Zhangping 
17-Shijiazhuang building collapses 
 9-Zhuzhou, a bridge that was condemned collapses a few days before scheduled demolition,The bridge was still in use!!!!!
 
1- Deng Senshan, a young internet gamer teen, (WHO had alot of extracurricular and a healthy relationship with friends), and who used the last used the internet to organize and catalog FAMILY PHOTOS (a very boring and tedious and eye ball straining, and dull but necessary job, it's contemporary generations equviliant to putting the thousands of family photos into the album). He was sent to a brat camp for youths, in the SEARING heat of a Tropical southern oceanic (no air con), and made to run laps until he collapsed. His last act as a "free" person in China, was to rescue a middle aged woman from drowning. His last words "They're killing me they're killing me". The counsilors bribed officials to run this school (many illegitimate businesses flood China), the educators didn't even finish school! Like alot of Chinese, who are not granted the privilege for private schooling,, according to a Reader's Digest report. 
 
1-Yao Jian, Hubei ,a young boy, died of kidney failure compounded with EXTREME heat exhaustion. (China has some of the worlds' most extreme nature), he was beaten to death because he collapsed, and the goons running the show though he was faking. (He died days after Deng Senshan, who died in similar circumstances), 
 
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 2010  (The Year of "Falling down" (reference Micheal Douglas movie about a man who goes postal after a stressful day, start of protests and mass riots). Sucides at the apple factory.  Cracks in the great seal of the People's Republic.
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2-Zhengzhou, Stingy employer boss,Wu Xianmin saves 3 RMB (.44 USD), by stabbing two of his migrant workers in the neck. 
 4-, Zibo, crazy guy goes and slices 20 kids up, (economic pressures, mental illness untreated), 
21-Aborted babies found in the Guangfu River!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK? I though that stereotype died out hundreds of years ago. 
9-Guizhou, building accident, wall collapses on workers renovating a convention center. 
1-Zhuzhou, man protesting eviction, sets himself on fire. 
 42 - Henan Airlines Flight 8387, Lindu Airport, China, 24 August 2010 (corruption, bribes, pilots had ZERO Experience, save playing videogames or something)
1 -Daliran Oil Spill (wikipedia Daliran oil spill)
8-Nanping,  A former retired doctor (who has a history of mental illness!?!!?!? a doctor!?!?!!!) worker goes crazy with a knife. (economic stress inspired psychosis-fustrations). 
9-A well to do butcher, slices 7 children, a parent, and a teacher up! (???!?!?!??! he was doing well in life so!?!?!?!)
10-Hanzhong, Man goes crazy with knife against children at a school, because of ongoing disputes about moving issues. He was the land lord.
1-Pizhou, villager death protesting eviction. Riot results. (Jan 12)
2-Xichang, deranged man attacks a grandma and her grandson. 
24-Mild Earthquake damaging buildings.  (fofu buildings) 
32- Henan Mine Explosion
14-Suicides (IN ONE MONTH!!!!), Foxconn (the Apple factory), 18 (attempted, 4 crippled for life). 
37-Crappy bridge collapses, Launchaun
13- Plastics factory explodes, Nanjing
2- Bombing of a Tax building, Changsha, Hunan
4-Tin mine's dam breaks. Xinyin (Zinjin mining)
28-Zinjin mine leaks acid into Ting river from copper mine. 
17- Hubei,  A drunk tractor driver runs people over just to get the one who quarrelled with him in a restraunt on his lunch break! 
1500+- Gansu Landslides caused by the "perfect storm", that and over foresting erosion, ill planned hydroelectric dams also caused erosion. 
7- Terrorist Bomb,  Aksu,Xinnang
21- Colliery fire. Yuanyang (explosions from unsafe work place, explosives for illegal mining)
1- Self immolation protesting eviction, Yihaung
1- A drunk Commie Princeling son of Li Guang (deputy head of security) drove his girlfriend home drunk runs over students who were roller blading one dies. 
1-A Commie little prince, "music" student  hits a peasant woman on her bike, and stabs her to death (fearing she'd report him), Li Guang is not his father. 
42- Shanghai building burns down, (Again Shoddy repair, unlicensed trades people working etc).november
1-Zhangjiang child victim of substandard healthcare
1-Villager run over by a steam roller's body resembles a cartoon, elected Village elder, held down by goon thugs, and run over by big tire of gravel truck. Qian Yunhui ofZhaiqiao Village. 
40 died from Hand-foot-mouth disease 
1- Qiu a young 16 year old girl who came to Hunan Fenghuang County, with her friends for a vacation. Leapt from her hotel, after drunk brutes two of them traffic cops molested her.
10-Anhui Building collapses
14-Xi'an building collapses, Substandard materials, quality. graft. 
53-Unlicenced Welders (remember the Reds control practically ALL aspects of the economy), incinerate a Shanghai high rise. 
19-Jilin, Mall, fire, (no safety checks, etc)  
19-Zhaoyuan, gold mine unsafe facility. 
600- Throughout China, tainted antibiotics, dramtatic reaction, (source: Chinese health stats).
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2011 (RIOTS RIOTS and MORE RIOTS:Inner Monglia, Shanghai *3, Xintang, Jasmine Revolution (across China, Chozhou, etc etc etc.  ) INSANITY! Also notice all the building collapses in June!!!!! Now that's what I call Fawtey towers!!!, Also the little children who suffocated and fried in a hot summer van operated by illegal day cares (bribes), 4 within days.
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1-NANCHANG, Elderly Farmer, euthanizes his friend, who was suffering mental illness, (Way to go Chinese health care), 

1- Linyi, Apr. 5, 2011 , is stabbed by a abortion official barging into his him, and beat his father.

 1-Hubei, Party Member stabs himself. Xie Yexin, an anticorruption official, “stabs himself 11 times”. (august)

1-Zhuzhou, a man immolates himself to protest eviction.
 
1- August 26, Shanghai, Man dies in an operating room, he was abandoned when doctors fled a fire, died of smoke inhilation.

1- Shanghai, 8 wounded, a nanny goes crazy and stabs her kids. (august 25).

1-ZhouZhou (kid)., Wuliduo, talented young student hangs himself with his young pioneer scarf. He was forced to copy the entirety of his text book, as a punishment by some tiger mom like teacher. He was starving and under tremendous pains. 
 
2-Huanbu County-  Twin children murdered by mother (it's not uncommon for Chinese families to resort to such extreme stresses in rural china, such as mental or physical illnesses are under funded. However China seems to have money for nuclear battle ships, and massive banks interesting). 
 
1-Farmer suicide-Shandong. After a series of heartbreaking setbacks, such as endemic plague (plagues are very common in this healthy utopia) destroying his livestock leaving him in dire peril for debts, his crops plummeted. All he wanted to do was send his daughter to school. (odd that China a educated utopia doesn't provide for children, well maybe for 5 stripe boy's diet). 
 
1-Young Accountant-overwork-Shanghai, working 18 hours a day as a excel auditor, and working for very blacklisted companies according to Chinese laws. dies of exhaustion at the age of 25
 
1- young University student beaten by police or NO REASON, open coffin funeral indicates severe brusing on the youth 4th year scholar. Zhao Wei, severely beaten by fatso cops. <ref>http://www.arnie.cn/2011/03/14/violent-death-of-chinese-college-student-triggers-indignation-online/</ref>
 
1- School boy ingests rat poison Xiao Nan (Little Nan), Lan San, fearful of a psychotic teacher (government employee, where does the CCP find these idiots?)
 1- Inner Monglian man named Yan, ran over by a forklift deliberately, ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Xilinhot_incident#cite_note-ming1-13)
1- Tibetan Monk immolation protest (with police putting him out, and adding insult to injury by beating his charred body, he was 17-21).  
5- Riots in Guangzhou (Xintang)
2-Labourer killed by truck driver (dilibratly), Inner Mongolia +1 (eventual execution of truck driver to placate rioting Mongolians). 
25-Yinnan Earthquake (crappy buildings)
3- Fuzhou bombings (march), a man who was impoverished for 10 years, who tried EVERY recourse of CIVILIZED redress, resorts to terrorism.
4-Firework store blew up., Guangxi (shoddy safety) 
3- Truckers (Shanghai Trucker strike)
3- Foxcon factory (apple factory), catches fire
3- Well what do you know.... Foxcon, AGAIN, sucides. 
1-Shenzhen, Chen Long, a young bread winner of a rural Chinese family. Who gave his meagre salary to care for his infirm parents (thanks alot CCP), AND his grandparents, dies of over work working at Foxconn.
6 Heshan Electricity Generating Company, collapse, Guangxi, June
8-Fujian  Iron mine collapse (illegal mine). 
21-Uprising in Xinnang
*23-Hubei, a trucker making a deadline crashed into a bus parked illegally on a highway fast lane (stupidity regulations etc)
*41-Bus burning in ZHENGZHOU, over crowded safety regulations-corruption, and a nut on board setting the fire accidentally (presumably a cigarette). 
* 32-BEIJING (Bullet train crash, although an "act of God", shoddy engineering, corruption, kick backs, bribes, women). (The Hubei bus, the Zengzhou bus, and the Beijing train, all happened in the SAME month). 
-7 another riot in Xinnang, Kashgar (July 31, 2011)
-15 riot in Xinnang (July 14) 
-4 Construction workers blow each up with Dynamite, after a dispute over a parking spot.(Longnan, July 28)
-3 Milk poison, Gansu, (similar to 2008's Sanlu milk scandal) 
-3 Bomb maker in Bejing makes a bomb to support petitioners.(Aug 7)
-7 Teenagers drown in Hohot reservoir (although very foolish to swim in these areas) August 7
-6 Heilongjiang coal mine fire. July (30)
-20, Southern Xinjiang, ethnic beatings on Uyghurs. 
-9, Guizhou, A building collapses (a shoddy sketchy building). June
- 9, building collapse Wuxi June
- 5 Anhui another building collapses, why am I not surprised June
-12 Jiangsu , Guess what and WHEN? ( yes that's right. Building collapse June). 
-14 (3 of them children), warehouse dorm Wuhan catchs on fire.
-2, Wanning, bridge collapses.
-10 coal explosion in,  Guizhou  (August)
-19 Guizhou Liupanshui  coal explosion (March, 2011).
 -6 Qitaihe, mine owner covered up an accident (august 1, 2011).
-11 Hotan (august), food poisoning crisis, vinegar tainted with antifreeze. Hundreds more hospitalized
-6, September 17,2011, Gongyi city, Schziophrenic farmer snaps and axe murders a bunch of kids.







resources to data mine out: ( latest August 19,2011)
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Mine ... 1&xm=1&m=p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac ... death_toll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fires
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/china ... aster.html
http://www.bullfax.com/?q=node/177610

This poll is defined wrong way. Political correctness? Is it about the aesthetics of the poster or is it about political views? Aesthetically, it is ugly to me – another piece of plastic rubbish on natural beach – I am afraid this is the only value it bears. Politically, it is just typical communist regime propaganda.

Thus "more or less".



I rather hope not, because we'd be fucked if it did.

I think it's possible it will gradually move away from totalitarianism, as Taiwan and South Korea both did in the last few decades, as they became richer and the Old Guard died off.
The CCP did learn from Tiananmen, though they don't discuss it or admit it.

Enough talk, what can we do against this banner? Did it come out of tax money? Who's bright idea was this now? Yu Lai Fan? AWhere can we file a complaint against this communist propaganda?

Addressing Vanoclamma's bileous ranting:

[in my opinion:]
The Chinese express train to capitalism on its own terms has started to make inroads into official corruption & misappropriation of funds (which exists everywhere and regularly pops up with great embarassment in the west).

Who honestly believes a booming third world nation, desperate to join the first world would hold off for a decade or three while studying all possible pitfalls that occurred in the west?

Name a single country where all is with is swell, citizens are happy & no work fatalities occur. And where kids of the rich and powerful don't try to get away with whatever they can.

Smoking bans are very recent in the west and being implemented now in the east. China will follow suit eventually.

1989 is still shocking but it happened, it's in the past, as are Khmer Rouge and Nazi Germany atrocities and many others. Harping on about them doesn't undo them. Every one tries to learn and move forward.

Crackdowns on dissent, the existence of 'black prisons' and the paranoia around free speech are the main problems that need addressing.

1989 is still shocking but it happened, it's in the past, as are Khmer Rouge and Nazi Germany atrocities and many others. Harping on about them doesn't undo them. Every one tries to learn and move forward.

Exactly. That is what happened. I would add e.g. "Victorian holocaust" to the list (term coined by British historians). The point is to say it - not to brain wash them by posters.