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In the meantime, the Tung O Lamma-Marina project in South Lamma is also slowly inching forward. Just saw this press clipping today:

"Hong Kong (HKSAR) - The Land and Development Advisory Committee (LDAC) was briefed on the new land supply arrangements announced in the 2010-11 Budget at its fourth meeting today (March 19). LDAC welcomed Government's measures to fine-tune the land supply arrangements....

"LDAC considered a private sector proposal by the Baroque on Lamma Limited to pursue a comprehensive marina, hotel and residential development at Tung O, Lamma Island.

"Members noted that the project might help enhance Hong Kong's role as an international event capital and promote water sports, but raised concern over the planning and land administration issues identified, as well as the project's environmental and ecological impacts on the proposed development area...."

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Regarding the Tung O Marina.... saw this in the Standard Newspaper today....

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_deta ... 00324&fc=4


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You'd think if they wanted to promote water sports they'd be better off going over to Sai Kung or somewhere like that on the other side where the water is ever so slightly less filthy.

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SCMP, today, 2010/03/24:


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This wanker wants to build a "six-star hotel" on south Lamma?

Yes, I can see the demand for that.
He imagines he can turn this rural beach into Monaco.
The Tannery shows how capable he is of realising that.


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This won't be the end of it. He'll revise the residential part of his plan to be somewhat less dense and try again. Eventually he'll succeed unless people rally and put up a hell of a well-organised and thoughtful opposition.

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Eventually he'll succeed unless people rally and put up a hell of a well-organised and thoughtful opposition.


Why oppose it? Yung Shue Wan needs an overspill centre for its expanding waistline.

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Well, this is your chance to speak up in public about your opinion about the "Lamma-Marina" project in South Lamma, The Baroque on Lamma. RTHK is doing a Backchat tomorrow morning, 8:30am in Queensway, Admiralty, and is looking for Lammaites to discuss this issue (not the Lammarina in Nga Kau Wan).

This is a follow-up to numerous newspaper and TV stories today about the project failing to win approval of the "Development Opportunities Office" committee recently, a merely temporary setback for this multi-billion-$ project, I think.

First, RTHK tried to get the developer and our District Councilors to join in, but it was difficult on such short notice, so they had to find alternatives, finally scraping the bottom of the barrel of available Lammaites they had contacts for, so they invited me! I've written about this specific South Lamma project occasionally for several years now.

Would somebody who's familiar with the issues and the area - Shek Pai Wan beach, Tung O Wan, Yung Shue Ha, basically the southernmost bay of our island, between Sham Wan beach and Mo Tat Wan - like to come along for the radio live discussion?

Email me at info@lamma.com.hk or PM me and I can get you in touch with the show's producer.

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I was fortunate in the past to visit a nearby small HK island in the SC Sea that is off limits to civilians/non governmental departments.

It is beautiful and the flora and fauna is spectacular. Apparently Botanists from all over the world get permission to visit this place. There is apparently a species of butterfly not found anywhere else.

I also think of 'Koh Samet' in Thailand (which many of us have visited) and how it hasn't been spoiled by commercialism and development, as it has been turned into a National Park with regulations.

I prefer botanists and environmentalists .... Lamma could be even more unique.

I think we should lobby to make Lamma Island into a HK National Park with protection :-)

Business can still thrive, but in a good way.


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I think we should lobby to make Lamma Island into a HK National Park with protection :-)

Business can still thrive, but in a good way.


Flying pigs spring to mind!

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Actually, I love the aptness of the name of this proposed development.
Judging from Lammarina's performance - if King Wong goes through with this they will be 'going brr-oke'! But seriously, doesnt 'baroque' imply a kind of excessively detailed opulence that that approaches conceit? Perhaps this is in line with and a perfect statement of the values of HK's noveau riche?

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The developer of the Lammarina at Tannery Beach below the DickStock Residence and "The Baroque on Lamma", the Lamma-Marina project along Tung O Wan beach, plus several other small-scale developments in South Lamma has just emailed me the following today, apologising for not being able to join the RTHK discussion yesterday:

"Indeed the project ["The Baroque on Lamma"] is not only to establish Hong Kong as an international renowned Asian sailing capital, but, also to benefit Lamma Island’s economy and social community including promoting tourism on the Island and transportation whilst preserving Lamma’s unique natural environment, community and culture.

"Should there be any issues that you would like to have our clarification, please do not hesitate to contact us."


Any questions from Lammaites, please, I'll be happy to forward them. As I've met some of the developers in person a few times over the last few years while interviewing them, I might even be able to get some answers. I've already forwarded some questions from the Living Lamma group.

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You can ask him on my behalf:

What does he know about Sailing?

What connections does he have with local yacht and dinghy racing clubs and organisations? What do they have to say about Baroque?

Why does he think he can do a better job at attracting yachting events than the people presently doing it.

The RHKYC is one of the largest in the world with three venues (including a marina) and a huge boatyard what can he add to this?

How can expect the place to function as a marina when the entrance is exposed to huge swells that build up when the wind is south westerly?

As a general comment - Surely this is just a ruse to fool the planning authorities and sell luxury property. THere really isn't enough interest in sailing to justify trashing the end of Lamma, even the America's cup hardly attracts TV coverage. if you want to encourage tourism build something like Eden Project, or another theme park on the Quarry. Forget sailing.


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"Indeed the project ["The Baroque on Lamma"] is not only to establish Hong Kong as an international renowned Asian sailing capital, but, also to benefit Lamma Island’s economy and social community including promoting tourism on the Island and transportation whilst preserving Lamma’s unique natural environment, community and culture.


Whilst the developers of The Baroque on Lamma may well swoon over the beautiful countenance of our fair Isle, and be surely convinced of the kindness and generosity of their persuasion, the more worldwise among us may recognise the slight odour of rattus!

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Cultural Studies 101 Final Exam

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The Land developer "King Wong" describes The Baroque On Lamma as being your dreamland… a sizeable development with a world-class marina, a 6-star hotel and [low density] :oops: residence. This place will become the heaven of those who enjoy sailing, seek a relaxed holiday in the beautiful natural environment and embrace green living.

Given this description, please choose which of the following 4 definitions of 'baroque' is probably most appropriate and explain why.
    (1) Of, relating to, or characteristic of a style in art and architecture developed in Europe from the early 17th to mid-18th century, emphasizing dramatic, often strained effect and typified by bold, curving forms, elaborate ornamentation, and overall balance of disparate parts.
    (2) also Baroque Music. Of, relating to, or characteristic of a style of composition that flourished in Europe from about 1600 to 1750, marked by expressive dissonance and elaborate ornamentation.
    (3) Extravagant, complex, or bizarre, especially in ornamentation: "the baroque, encoded language of post-structural legal and literary theory" (Wendy Kaminer).
    (4) Irregular in shape: baroque pearls.

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Dear Cultural Studies teacher,

Your highlighted words seem to lead the exam participants into your preferred answer. All four choices might actually apply in this specific case:<OL compact><li>The 6-star hotel will be built in a style splendidly reminiscent of the world-famous, renowned architectural period of the Baroque from the early 17th to mid-18th century in classical Europe, "emphasizing dramatic, often strained effect and typified by bold, curving forms, elaborate ornamentation, and overall balance of disparate parts." A real-life dreamland and architectural wonder!
<li>Baroque Music will be piped through weatherproof loudspeakers all over the development, the "expressive dissonance and elaborate ornamentation" being a most refreshing and highly sophisticated diversion from the usual muzak in shopping malls. There'll also be live performances of classical baroque masterpieces in the hotel lobby during teatime and dinner!
<li>"Extravagant, complex, or bizarre, especially in ornamentation" is an apt description of the lush and bountiful vegetation and healthy organic vegetables growing all over the development, turning it into a veritable Garden of Eden!
<li>Baroque Pearls: Yes, you'll be welcome to dive for pearls in Tung O bay from your own private yacht or sailboat! After a successful haul, you can retire to your luxurious beachfront residential housing or enjoy a lavish, sumptuous dinner banquet in the nearby 6-star hotel with your happy and relaxed family, all of them enjoying luxury beachfront living in South Lamma tremendously!</OL>Sorry, my ancient past and my former life in advertising/promotion seem to catch up with me sometimes.
But hey, maybe The Baroque on Lamma should consider hiring me to write and design their residential sales brochure for them! :lol: :lol:

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LG - spin doctor extraordinaire! Haha! :D

I appreciate your desire for balance and fairness but those with axes to grind (and I include myself) will contine to jostle to expose one another.

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Tavis wrote:
LG - spin doctor extraordinaire! Haha!

Thank you, thank you! :bow:
I was inspired by some of the TV commercials and glossy sales brochures for luxury residential property, making so many promises and being completely over the top usually.

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Axes? You'd dare to take an ax to the amazing, original, priceless, hand-made, baroque furniture decorating every one of the 6-star hotel rooms?
You...you...BARBARIAN!!! :shock: :shock:

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those with axes to grind (and I include myself) will contine to jostle to expose one another.


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