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Hi Nancy.......... sometimes they do pose.........

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Can we get a full account of the six species of amphibians found on Lamma? I am finally able to process sound files recorded on my digital sound recorder after problems finding a version of Sonicstage compatible with Vista, so maybe we can get the sounds as well as the pictures.

To get the ball rolling - what is this species? Can something so tiny save the Yung Shue Long valley?


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very cool thread, keep it coming guys!


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If Zep's audio file is the Romer's, then I DEFINITELY heard it at the Yung Shue Long Lilly Pond one evening last week. I read the other posts that described it, but I couldn't hear the sound from the other links provided.

I remembered that it was supposed to sound like an insect or cricket and when I heard it it was like that, but louder, and seemed somehow to be obviously a frog that sounded like an insect, if that makes sense :?

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If Zep's audio file is the Romer's, then I DEFINITELY heard it at the Yung Shue Long Lilly Pond one evening last week. I read the other posts that described it, but I couldn't hear the sound from the other links provided.


You can't hear it at http://www.ngensis.com/RTF/calling.htm?

Try a direct link to the audio file:
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Alan, I can't hear anything on the first link and the second one just says "video is loading" for ever.

I use a lot of different audio and video formats and have codecs loaded to play pretty much every type of format I download on BT, so I'm a bit perplexed about this :?

So is it the same???

[edit] OK, posting the first link into IE works. I use Firefox normally :(

sound the same, so I'm 100% sure that little bugger was in the lilly pond last week!!!!

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Zippy wrote:
Alan, I can't hear anything on the first link and the second one just says "video is loading" for ever.

I use a lot of different audio and video formats and have codecs loaded to play pretty much every type of format I download on BT, so I'm a bit perplexed about this :?

So is it the same???

[edit] OK, posting the first link into IE works. I use Firefox normally :(

sound the same, so I'm 100% sure that little bugger was in the lilly pond last week!!!!

I use Opera, usually, and it plays it.

Looking at the source, it was created with FrontPage, so no wonder it's not clean HTML. Apparently the BGSOUND tag it uses is non standard HTML. Mozilla browsers prefer "EMBED".

Anyway, the audio itself is WAVE, as standard as you can get. No exotic codecs needed. Right-click on the link to the wave files and play or save it should work in any browser.

When I tried it in Firefox, it failed to play it as a background sound, but downloaded and played the wave file in a few seconds.

Anyway, here's an MP3 version:


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I assume that mine (recorded in Tai Peng) is a Romer's tree frog (I did not actually observe the beast), but it sounds quite different from the one from your link. Any comments, Nancy? Are these both within the normal range of vocalisations for this species?


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Ah, really nice Geoff. Both Alan's and Geoff's calls are those of Romer's tree frog. The deeper the pitch, the larger and theoretically the older the frog. I suspect they don't live more than 3 years, so Geoff's is probably a first-time breeder ( a young guy) and Alan's is older. Female frogs key in on the deeper pitch to get the "fittest" male. I now have decent pictures of all the frogs on Lamma and hope to get them up here soon. Am thinking about finally getting a website like PBase, so I don't have to reduce the resolution. Any other suggestions besides PBase?


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Anonymous Guy wrote:
Hi Nancy.......... sometimes they do pose.........


Hi Guy, great photo. I have gotten some good amorous pairs posing lately. Any suggestions on websites to show photos?


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Nancy, are Guy's pictures actual Romer's tree frogs?


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I guess Guy's chap is the brown tree frog? The one with the frothy mass of eggs floating in the ponds?

So mystery frog no 1 was indeed the elusive Romer's tree frog. Any guesses for this one?

(Unfortunately with the 100 kb limit for file attachments, I'm limited to a 5 second mp3. Any way round this?)


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(Unfortunately with the 100 kb limit for file attachments, I'm limited to a 5 second mp3. Any way round this?)


if you change the sampling rate to 8kHZ, and reduce the quality setting, you can get over 20 seconds in 100k.
Eg:


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Yes, Guy's tree frog is the brown tree frog, not Romer's tree frog. It lays the brown foam nest outside of water or on top of it.

Mystery Frog #2 is the Asiatic painted frog. This is the one that seems to drive everyone batty but I think the call is nice.


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Here is a male Romer's tree frog belting it out in Tai Peng last week. At about 2 cm in size it is amazing the amount of sound they produce.


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if you change the sampling rate to 8kHZ, and reduce the quality setting, you can get over 20 seconds in 100k.


Thanks, I'd forgotten about that. At 8 though the quality does drop off quite a lot, so it's a trade-off between length and quality. Know of any (free) sites that host sound recordings, like Flickr etc for visual images?


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Thanks, I'd forgotten about that. At 8 though the quality does drop off quite a lot, so it's a trade-off between length and quality. Know of any (free) sites that host sound recordings, like Flickr etc for visual images?


Nothing stable, that's likely to stay around for more than a few months at best.


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Sorry, I can't increase the attachment size for a single forum member, so I've just increased it for EVERYBODY to 200KB and up to 5 attachments per post.

Let's see how it's going and if there are no abuses we should have enough server space for the next few years.

Zep, please post the sounds again in 16kHZ.

For individual, big attachments, any file type including sounds, images, videos,...just email them to me and I can upload them individually here. The files will stay online for at least as long as these forums will survive.
And there's always the separate Lamma-zine server with an extra 5GB of online space which we can use...

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