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Thanks Chav, I'll go with that (Yellow Browed Warbler - Phylloscopus inornatus), although must confess I was torn between Chinese Leaf-Warbler (Phylloscopus sichuanensis) & Pallas's Leaf Warbler (Phylloscopus proregulus).
FYI here are a few more images of the same bird (click on images for larger pics)

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FYI, the "Crested Bulbul" (previously shown) is registered in the most recent edition of HK Birds as the "Crested" Bulbul, but in previous editions as the Red Whiskered Bulbul.
According to "Clements Birds of the World" - the name is shown as "Red Whiskered Bulbul".
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Chinese Bulbul = Light-vented Bulbul
Scaly Breasted Munia = Nutmeg Mannikin (picture below)
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Guy MIller wrote:
Thanks Chav, I'll go with that (Yellow Browed Warbler - Phylloscopus inornatus), although must confess I was torn between Chinese Leaf-Warbler (Phylloscopus sichuanensis) & Pallas's Leaf Warbler (Phylloscopus proregulus).
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Have just been informed it is Pallas's Leaf-warbler (Phylloscopus proregulus) through a Bird Forum.
Seems they are only here for the winter months, down from Siberia or Mongolia.
You still keep the 10 points for effort. :)

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Sorry Zep - gotta deduct ten points for yr attempt at the Tailorbird.

Had a serious misgiving at the time because of the different colouration from the image I posted on Page 2 of this forum.

Seemsour above mentioned bird is a Manchurian Bush-warbler (Cettia canturians), locally known as "Chinese Bush-warbler" - another one wintering down here from Siberia or Manchuria.
& not to be confused with the Japanese Bush-warbler (Cettia diphone) which is part of a "split group" with slightly different colouring.

Mind you, as it spends a fair amount of time on Lamma I see no reason why it can't be called the Lamma Bush-warbler

However you can have 5 points for effort - bringing you back upto 94 - sure you can still taste that delicious bouquet even though it's slipped from your grasp just that tiny little bit.

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Seem sour above mentioned bird is a Manchurian Bush-warbler (Cettia canturians), locally known as "Chinese Bush-warbler" - another one wintering down here from Siberia or Manchuria.


Oops yes, I do believe you are correct. I'd better look more closely next time. The second photo shows it clearly. Humble apologies (they've stopped selling charcoal, so I'll skip the public suicide attempt).


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That's ok Zep, I think we can move on.
Perhaps with this one you can redeem yourself & you can get past that magical 100 point mark

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Have just been informed it is Pallas's Leaf-warbler (Phylloscopus proregulus) through a Bird Forum


I cannot agree with this. The Pallas’ warbler is very tiny and quite stubby in shape. It is also much brighter green on the back, and has a bright yellow rump and a central yellow stripe on the crown - your bird has none of these. You can check the difference in this picture of a Pallas’ warbler. Incidentally, this is taken from a very useful website for bird identification - see http://www.birdguides.com/html/vidlib/s ... egulus.htm

I stick by my original choice of yellow-browed warbler and challenge your informant to justify his/her identification!


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Hi Chav, thanks yr image of PW.
Sorry to bring conflict into the Lamma Forums - not something I like to do. 8)

Posted the pic in all innocence in the "bird forum" just to see what it was & in 24hrs has received 31 replies & 435 views.

Whilst there are a couple that follow yr view about the YBW, it seems the leaning is towards the PW, but they're not at one another's throat, yet.

Rather than try & make it look as if I know what I'm talking about - best thing is if you go through to the forum & see if you can make head or tail of what they're talking about .
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Wow, that certainly generated a lot of interest on the "Birdforum" - thanks for locating this. I presume it is based in the UK. I wonder if they realise that this is an East Asian bird. The varieties in Europe may not be quite the same. Would you be able to post it on the HK Bird Watching site? They also have a forum (ojn the BBS button on their site) where they identify photos sent in. It would be interesting to compare their views.


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Yep, they really got into it.
Seems they checked with someone that had done China birdwatching tours - but I take yr point - will see if I can check it out on the other forum.

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Chav - weird - seems they've been having exactly the same discussion over the last 2 days - about whether they had the PW or the YBW - in their forum they have a pic of the YBW - the thread link is here http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/Ya ... 1108950151
- can see why there is confusion - might submit my pic & see what happens 8)

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Chav - see yr getting stuck into them in the "Birdforum" - have posted the pic in HKBWS & we'll see what we get back :wink:

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Well, while mulling over yr answer for the last bird, here's another pic of the Red-whiskered Bulbul (Pycnonotus jocosus)
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Near the youth hostel on sunday I saw an unfamiliar small bird in the bushes. very bright chestnut tail belly, with black body, dashes of white here and there and a white crown. the nearest one I can find in my bird book is a river chat (chaimarrornis leucocephalus), apparently very common along mountain streams and rivers in china and tibet. has anyone else seen anything like this on Lamma? Is it a regular visitor or resident here?


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I think this is almost certainly the male Daurian redstart (Phoenicurus auraureus). There are quite a few females around (wagginr rufous tail and white wing patch) but far fewer of the brightoly coloured males. Anybody got a picture?


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If you are at the Youth Camp anytime, there is a chap there (Mr. Wong) who is a bird wiz - met him one day & showed him the image on my camera, & with the merest of glances said "Daurian Redstart" - the female is shown earlier in this forum.
He was out hunting drongos with a big lens.

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Here are some pics pinched from the Internet - two males and a female


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that's definitely the one I saw, a male. Thanks for the info!


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Well, that's another 10 points each for both Chav & Zep for correctly identifying the Daurian Redstart & the very useful pictures.

So Chav now has 40 points.

Zep would have move passed the magical 100 point mark, but I'm going to have to deduct 5 points for "stealing" the images. Unless of course he can show he got permission to use the pictures, or that he didn't need permission.

So Zep is on 99 points - one more for that elusive bottle of wine.

Minibeast also gets 10 points for being alert - we need lerts on Lamma - there simply aren't enough of us.

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Ok, this one's a Shrike - but which one

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