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| Author: | buddhaboyjp [ Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:55 pm ] |
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I read in your zine that you have a new Japanese rest. I don't mean to sound snobbish, but the first thing that I usually do when I enter a Japanese rest, overseas, is to order in Japanese. 9 out of 10 tens times, the owner/chief/waiter-ress is usually Thai or Korean. Not that I don't trust their preparation of the Japanese cuisine, I much prefer the food to be cooked by a person from that country. Living in Japan, it is difficult to get the 'real' Italian food cooked by an Italian and so forth and so forth, but I hear you people have it good when it comes to International foods. Lucky you!! |
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| Author: | Sneaky-O [ Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:37 pm ] |
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乜嘢話?!? |
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| Author: | Granola Eater [ Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:43 pm ] |
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The first thing I usually do when I enter a Japanese restaurant , overseas, is act the twat. Language no barrier. |
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| Author: | headroom [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:04 am ] |
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the first thing that I usually do when I enter a Japanese rest, overseas, is to order dim sum. |
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| Author: | buddhaboyjp [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:59 pm ] |
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Sneaky-O {L_WROTE}: 乜嘢話?!?
I don't understand this Kanji. Means: seven vegetables talk? Care to elaborate this? |
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| Author: | buddhaboyjp [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:00 pm ] |
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Granola Eater {L_WROTE}: The first thing I usually do when I enter a Japanese restaurant , overseas, is act the twat. Language no barrier.
??? Are you saying that you act like a twat or you ARE a twat? |
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| Author: | buddhaboyjp [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:01 pm ] |
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headroom {L_WROTE}: the first thing that I usually do when I enter a Japanese rest, overseas, is to order dim sum.
This was funny, but stupid. |
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| Author: | Granola Eater [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:25 pm ] |
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I dont mean to sound snobbish, but the first thing that I usually do when I enter a forum, overseas, is to talk bollocks. 9 out of ten times I am mocked mercilessly. |
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| Author: | buddhaboyjp [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:08 pm ] |
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Granola Eater {L_WROTE}: I dont mean to sound snobbish, but the first thing that I usually do when I enter a forum, overseas, is to talk bollocks.
9 out of ten times I am mocked mercilessly. Bollocks? Is that one of those British scones or something? Let me make this simple for you to understand, mmmmk? Overseas means, well, overseas. As in a Japanese rest. that is operated by Thais or Koreans, other than Japanese, and not in the country Japan, which also further means that you are NOT getting the original cuisine that the establishment is falsely advertising under. Now, to further explain for your understanding, and just yours, when entering a self-proclaimed Japanese rest., I will order in the Japanese language, simply because I can speak it, and itis also a way for me to test out as to whether the rest. is indeed going to serve me traditional Japanese prepared food. Unlike HK, we here in Japan, are not privy to Italian rest. being owned by Italians, Chinese rest. being owned by Chinese, not hot dog stands being owned by New Yorkers to the scale that you are, which is why I said that you are more fortunate in that aspect in life. Got it now? Becareful of those clown shoes you have on, you might trip over some of that Lamma-ite fecal matter in the streets. Your own. |
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| Author: | Fortune Chan [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:04 pm ] |
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Could you explain yourself one more time. |
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| Author: | Granola Eater [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:33 pm ] |
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There is no call for racism, Buddha Boy. |
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| Author: | Alan [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:24 pm ] |
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I saw a preview of the Jamie Oliver series where he goes to Italy. The Italian grannies mock him mercilessly for not using authentic ingredients. After all, if you don't have the blood of the Caesars how could you make spaghetti? And meanwhile, as my great-great-great-great-grandmother was from Scotland, I'm making haggis tonight. |
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| Author: | Zippy [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:30 pm ] |
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Where are you getting the sheep's stomach from? |
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| Author: | Fortune Chan [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:21 pm ] |
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Could we have a poll? |
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| Author: | Lamma-Gung [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:45 pm ] |
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We already have a long-running poll about the Blue Bird Japanese Rest. But as the owner, cooks and waiters all seem to have changed recently, I tried it again tonight. It was rated the 2nd-best restaurant in Yung Shue Wan before, but now it might not deserve this top-rating anymore. There's probably no Japanese speaker left in there and it's all prepared in a kind of Cantonese way and taste now. This means unsalted rice instead of vinegar rice for the sushi, very mild wasabi and dried-out sashimi pieces, overfried, hard tempura, miso soup with little taste and no eye for arranging the plates nicely, for example my favourite, chirashi, was simply made by dropping thin slices of sashimi radially on a mound of rice. Such a pity, it was one of my favourite local places before. And the prices have increased significantly as well... They need to get new cooks before I go back in there, not necessarily Japanese but at least well-educated in Jaanese restaurants locally or overseas. The Blue Bird poll has been reset, as we try to do whenever a restaurant changes completely, for the worse or for the better, giving it a new chance. Sorry for interrupting this discussion with a post that is actually related to the title of the discussion... continue with your random one-liners, guys... |
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| Author: | Zippy [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:39 pm ] |
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A very relevant post there LG - well done in your ceaseless quest to highlight the ongoing changes in the local restaurants. Now back to the poll : Can I suggest "is budhaboyjp a) a pretentious twat b) a valid contributor who has led to the re-evaluation of this once favourite local eatery Remember YOUR vote counts |
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| Author: | Granola Eater [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:47 pm ] |
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This restaurant is one of my regular lunch haunts, but I had dinner recently and was again very impressed. Even when they are busy, service is always prompt; one thing they never lack is sufficient wait staff. For lunch, it's wise to come before noon for fastest service, but even after noon, it's usually not that hard to get a table. I think they do most of their business at lunch because it's always busy then; when I was there for dinner there were no more than half the tables occupied at most. But the turnover was pretty good (there were plenty of patrons, unlike many lunch-oriented oriental restaurants that always seem deserted in the evening); I was there for about 2 hours and it was a steady stream, both for sit-down and at the sushi bar. It's a fairly large place; they have some nice private rooms, which we enjoy at lunch with business groups of 8-10. The place is very well lit, even at night; this is not a dark or romantic setting: think booths and a few tables. It's very nice and tastefully done, but without the decor and the sushi bar, it could just as well be an upscale hamburger joint. In fact, there were a couple of TV sets that had been tuned to the news, and then to a basketball game, during my dinner visit that can be viewed easily by patrons seated at the sushi bar. But they are unobtrusive and it's nowhere near as lowbrow as a sports sushi bar (if there were such a thing). If you want to see the fresh fish, etc. or observe your sushi being made, then definitely sit at the sushi bar; there's plenty of room (unlike some other sushi restaurants), but you will be served by the regular wait staff (not the guys that prepare the sushi). There are always several specials, which are advertised on a whiteboard at lunch. At dinner, you apparently have to ask your server (but they are posted on a whiteboard near the sushi bar for the servers to read, but visible to patrons). For lunch, my crowd usually gets out of there for anywhere from $1,900 to $200,000 each, including drink and a generous tip. That's very reasonable considering both the quality and amount of food; that tab typically represents the per person average when half of a group of six to eight get just the lunch sushi special, and the rest get one or two extra sushi orders each. Overall, the cost is a few dollars less per person than most of Lamma's highest-rated sushi hotspots; but the quality is the same (or better)! And the waitresses will lap dance. You can order from the dinner menu at lunch, but they also have a shorter lunch menu, and some regular daily lunch specials. For dinner, I had their extra large sushi special ($18, 000), plus a few of my usual favorites, such as the spider roll. The sushi is prepared by the guys at the sushi bar; you can observe the process from there and throughout the restaurant. The sushi bar will seat around 14 people, so it's not a tiny one like you find in most places. The portions are as large as any in any other Lamma sushi restaurant, although, as with any very good Japanese restaurant, the prices are not cheap. But it's not overpriced at all in my opinion. I have read other sushi restaurant reviews (not on this site) by a native Japanese that panned sushi restaurants where the sushi was not prepared by native Japanese. If that's a concern for you, then it's not an issue here. Every one of the staff seems to qualify, to the point that it is sometimes obvious that English is a second and unfamiliar language; nonetheless, we have never had any problem communicating the business at hand. The young wait staff is, as you would expect, completely bilingual. The interior of the restaurant will not win any awards, and it's more brightly lit than most sushi restaurants (but I like that), so don't plan on impressing anybody that you take there. But, if you want great sushi at a price commensurate with its value, go to Japan and buddhaboyjp will set you up. |
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| Author: | Zippy [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:56 pm ] |
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WOW - someone who has actually eaten there! Well there can be no more debate can there?
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| Author: | buddhaboyjp [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:38 pm ] |
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Zippy {L_WROTE}: A very relevant post there LG - well done in your ceaseless quest to highlight the ongoing changes in the local restaurants.
Now back to the poll : Can I suggest "is budhaboyjp a) a pretentious twat b) a valid contributor who has led to the re-evaluation of this once favourite local eatery Remember YOUR vote counts I vote b! My point simply, though so confusingly mis-communicated by yours truely, is my prejudice, not racism when it comes to our 2nd favorite past time, with sex being the 1st. I would prefer to eat French food prepared by a native French person, who has grown and lived in France, learned to cook from their mama or grandma, and been to some of the cooking schools, as compared to a Japanese chief who trained in France for a few years and opens a rest. in Jp. Granted, the food may very well be scrumpcious, but I will take the native French over the Jp chief any day of the week for authentic French food. is this not what you want to eat? Authentic cuisine?. Sorry, it is just my preference. Did not mean to step on anyone's toes. I have noticed recently in the U.S. and from what my fiancee (HK native) has to tell me about Jp rest. in HK, they are primarily Thai owners and chiefs. I do not know why that is, and find it to be an interesting phenomenon. She also tells me she prefers the HK food more then here in Jp, though from what I understand, you people have all of it. I cannot say from experience which place would be better for world cuisines, N.Y. or HK. I have also seen advertisements of Jp. rest. in HK from the magazines she brings me, and sorry to say this, but they just do not make sushi so glamorous here. Jp. food is very simple without the glittering gold and what not. Lastly, next time you eat your sushi, pls ask them for 'Sashimi Shoyu' which is a much sweeter soya sauce, created for eating sushi and sashimi. Cheers[/u] |
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| Author: | Alan [ Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:54 pm ] |
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buddhaboyjp {L_WROTE}: in HK, they are primarily Thai owners and chiefs. I do not know why that is
Because Thais will work for about 10% what you would have to pay a Japanese. And here's <A href="http://www.thedeliciouslife.com/bizshow.cfm?Biz=2448&ShowReview=243">another review.</a> |
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