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Author:  mojo [ Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:59 am ]
Post subject:  Should Lily Garden open on weekdays?


Author:  Lamma-Gung [ Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Lily Garden

Welcome to Lamma.com.hk, mojo!

Enjoying your yummy crepe & strong coffee ("to wake up the dead") yesterday, I like your new place a lot!
It's got an ideal location overlooking the tourist trail coming up the hill in Tai Yuen, eye-catching furniture and very friendly, relaxed & bilingual service. This could become a viable little weekend and holiday business, if you'd promote it well and offer some more snacks for the tourists passing by.

As always, I followed my annoying habit of taking pictures of dishes in local restaurants, see below.

Making it a full-time, all-week business? Just a few comments:<OL><LI>From talking to most restaurants & bars on a regular basis (most of them current or former Lamma-zine advertisers), I know that the local F&B scene is a tough and overcrowded place. Many have tried and failed over the years. Ever more restaurants facing a shrinking population, many of them with very limited budgets for eating/drinking out.
<LI>Your location in Tai Yuen would rely mostly on weekend/holiday tourists, as it's too far outside the main villages up a hill, too far for a coffee for many lazy local residents, like myself. You need regulars to make the biz sustainable. Expected traffic during weekdays would be just a small fraction of weekends. That's why most shops up there open only on weekends & holidays.
<LI>If you're different, offering something new & good, it could become a success. More than juices, teas, coffee & crepes, which are available in several other places already.
<LI>Check out your direct main competitors on that road and see what they do right and wrong:
Emily's, Tropicana, Honey Bee, "My Cafe" (reopening soon), dai pai dong opposite tea shop, Shelly's and the several sweet tofu places all the way up to Hung Shing Yeh beach.</OL>To summarise, I'd advise to try weekends & holidays first for a few weeks or months and see how it's going, before giving up your steady-income day job, surviving on the potentially pretty small & highly fluctuating income from an all-week, outdoor-only cafe.

Or just take a week or two off from work and try it safely right now!

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Author:  mojo [ Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:23 pm ]
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Thanks Lamma Gung,

Very helpful and intelligent comments indeed. I think for now I'd like to stick with the weekends first and see how it goes. Be sure to drop by again soon for our "waking up the dead"!

Author:  Lamma-Gung [ Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:23 pm ]
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Sale at Lily Garden and Mojo candle shop last weekend. I stocked up on candles and crockery. Disillusioned Mr Mojo is pulling out of Lamma. The two girls who tried to run the place for him - renaming the place to POW - didn't work out either and closed a while ago. My comments and advice above to Mr Mojo - when he just set up - were almost prophetic, unfortunately.

Stephen the Dollarfull is trying to sell the place, not renting it out any longer. Got some spare cash and always dreamed of running a little shop or restaurant on Lamma? Don't!
Gamble in the stock market instead, it's a much smaller risk and the chances for actual profits are much bigger...

Sorry about the poor photo quality... camera phone...

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