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Author:  Tavis [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:18 pm ]
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Author:  Tavis [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:01 am ]
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Author:  Alan [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:39 am ]
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Author:  Tavis [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:33 am ]
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I have called the EPD to make an inquiry / complaint. They are following up on it - reference # 6477-09

Environmental Protection Department Address : Community Relations Unit,
10/F., Citibank Tower, 3 Garden Road, Central, Hong Kong
complaints: 2838-3111
Tel : 2519 9173
Fax : 2827 8138
Web site : http://www.info.gov.hk/epd

Author:  foreign body [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:47 am ]
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I am aware of what is going on, as i see the valley from my window.
Yesterday i posted a thread in the Lamma forum, about the same issue. They started dumping construction waste last Monday.

But i began to be concerned about the future of the valley when they concreted the banks of the stream.

I suspect that someone had a vested interest in pushing for drainage work in the valley, because flooding was never severe enough to justify the
government intervention. Raising the footpath would have been enough.
Of course, if the same someone intends to build houses in the flood plain, he would want to make sure that the stream is "under control".

I smell a rat. I suspect that when the old farmer passes away, the same someone will take over the agricultural land and start building.

It's a real pity, because streams are vital for the ecosystem, and we certainly don't need more houses in an aerea that serves a very important purpose as a
flood plain. Not to mention that those houses will not be in a safe position...Greed is blind.

Well done, Tavis,
I will also lodge a complain with the department. Let's see if they investigate the matter.

Author:  Xerxes [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:47 am ]
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Hi Tavis,

i had a similar issue with a stream that runs by my house - for years it was a clean fast moving stream intil the owner of the land next door decided to fill in the part that runs through his land and replace it with a pipe.

Unfortunately the workmen who put in the pipe did not seem to understand that water flows down hill and the pipe rises up instead of down - now the the stream has little to no flow and is filling with debris and algae/weeds.

Reported to the lands department and EPD and the drainage department - they came - took pictures etc then stated that as the land was private there was nothing they could do - sounds like a bit of a cop out on their part.

You may find its the same case here, but if not do let me know as I would like to have something done about the swampy conditions now developing by my house.

Good luck!

Author:  Zippy [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:32 pm ]
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Author:  Alan [ Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:05 am ]
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Author:  Lamma-Gung [ Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:15 pm ]
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Author:  Tavis [ Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:44 pm ]
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Author:  Tavis [ Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:19 pm ]
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Author:  Tavis [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:08 pm ]
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There is now a Lands Dept. notice posted on the railing informing the owners (something to the effect) that their dumping has created 2 problems that they must rectify:
1) It has created potential mosquito breeding sites
2) a potential flooding problem
It states further that they must solve these problems or else the lands dept. office will take action against them.

I guess we can't expect the 'owners' to show up apologetically on Monday morning digging furiously to restore the site to its natural state. So it will probably require steady but friendly pressure on the Lands Dept. to follow through on enforcement.

Author:  Alan [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:48 pm ]
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Author:  farang_utang [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:23 am ]
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Author:  Alan [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:05 am ]
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Author:  Tavis [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:33 am ]
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The more I think about it, the more unlikely it seems to me to be that house building in the valley can be stopped. It's privately controlled land in the hands of wealthy and powerful Lamma intrests and there is an enormous amount of money to be made through its development.

I think it might be possible, however, to save the stream from being buried in a cement pipe. There is an increasing awareness here in Hong Kong, as can been seen in the earlier posted link from Open University of Hong Kongregarding the formerly unrecognised value of open, natural watercourses.

Perhaps, in addition to focussed resistance, we could organise an open forum discussion night with a few academics as guests where there could be free dialogue in Chinese and English about the value of riparian preservation?

Author:  Big Bad Bill [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:42 am ]
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Plus police, plus Yue Lai Fan - let's inundate them with complaints and see what the reaction is

Author:  Lamma-Gung [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:55 am ]
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Several people and I have tried that already:

"We don't know, we don't care, not our business because it's 'private land.'"

Re: the sewage works waste from Main Street being dumped there:
Let's see what the local office of the engineering co. - Scott Wilson CDM Joint Venture who's supervising Kaden - has to say about that:

Hotline 2982 0125 or their office no. 2982 0240.

I hope we won't get "We don't know, we don't care, not our business." from them as well...

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