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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:19 pm 
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Anton wrote:
Let's play ghosts at night and scare them away!


I'd say burn the place down except they'd make more money from insurance than they're worth.

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the developer & their mainland partner Agile might make another attempt at getting the Baroque on Lamma development with marina in South Lamma approved later this year. Lamma-1 became kind of an embarrassment, being totally empty for so many years after completion.

Probably some relative of the developer getting it for nothing to make the place look less hopeless.

Reminds me of when I was in Melbourne and a friend at the Housing Commission got me a free flat for a few months so that squatters and vandals wouldn't move in while it was waiting to be renovated.

Well, Dick will keep an eye on their movements and then you can drop by with a cake and interview the new "tenants" when they move in.


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:51 pm 
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Alan wrote:
I'd say burn the place down except they'd make more money from insurance than they're worth.
Alan, you're getting a Yellow Card here for advocating violence against a property developer, a most serious offense on Lamma!!!
Beware of their powerful friends and allies! Woe might befall you!

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Well, Dick will keep an eye on their movements and then you can drop by with a cake and interview the new "tenants" when they move in.
Mr DickStock is in Subic Bay, not easy to catch him on Lamma these years, just stopping over between trips, it seems. :roll:

Good idea with the cake, but not even sure about the nationality of the new tenants yet. Some Mainland dessert, perhaps?

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:02 pm 
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I walk past Lammarina every day but haven't noticed the new resident yet - will take a closer look tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:49 pm 
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2nd house from the right, as seen from street level. Empty cardboard boxes outside the house, big flower pots on the patio as seen from the public pier below Lamma-1.

I wonder if these people are aware of the VIP celebrity status they'll have here whenever they show their faces in public and people point them out to each other, the first-ever luxury gated community tenants in the history of Lamma, the highest-ever rent, the only real swimming pool anywhere so far, private boat service to town, gym, clubhouse, security; all firsts on Lamma, I believe; the beginning of a new up-market era for the Lamma community.


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:10 pm 
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Lamma-Gung wrote:
Alan, you're getting a Yellow Card here for advocating violence against a property developer, a most serious offense on Lamma!!!
Beware of their powerful friends and allies! Woe might befall you!


Even if I was serious, arson of an empty building isn't violence.
I wouldn't encourage it, it'd just give them a payout.
And I didn't advocate violence against a property developer (today), though that isn't a bad idea either.

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private boat service to town.

Really?


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:37 pm 
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The original plan was a 24-hour service exclusively for Lamma-1 residents, to bring them and their visitors on demand to various destinations on HK Island. But first they'd need more than a few residents to make this possible, of course.

Plans might have changed in the last few years, like that coastal road to the YSW ferry pier they hoped the Govt. would build for them.

I wonder when the next of their development plans on Lamma, as outlined in that Apple Daily article in our ex-Lamma Quarry topic, will get off the ground.

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:18 am 
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Lamma-Gung wrote:
The original plan was a 24-hour service exclusively for Lamma-1 residents, to bring them and their visitors on demand to various destinations on HK Island. But first they'd need more than a few residents to make this possible, of course.


As I thought, they haven't really done it, just put it in the brochure.


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Agree with Alan I bet there is not a private boat service. How would it work if Mrs A wanted to leave at 8am to go to work and Mr B wanted to leave at 830? At best they would have a very limited private service with fixed times.


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Maybe they will have a rickshaw service or palanquin to take tenants to Main Street restaurants or to our working class ferry pier.

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It works for Sea Ranch though. There's a tiny motor boat. Must work for that place too.


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:35 pm 
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Anton wrote:
It works for Sea Ranch though. There's a tiny motor boat. Must work for that place too.

There are 200 units at Sea Ranch, vs 10 at the Tannery.
So the cost would be 20x per unit.


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An alert reader found two Lammarina ads on Squarefoot.com.hk:



The ONLY property listed on Squarefoot magazine's website on all of Lamma, they're only advertising the standard-size Village Houses, not the duplexes yet; all 3 floors, for 1 family:

$59K or $62K.

Building: "Lamma - No Name" - Located on "Lantau Island, Lamma" - Gym - Swimming Pool - 5 bathrooms - "Building Age: 1" !!!

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:58 am 
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Facebook message to Lamma Gung yesterday:

"I'm a reporter from Sing Tao Daily (星島日報), property page.

I'm doing a featuring story about Lamma-1. I heard that those buildings were empty for several years and recently there is a new tenant moving in.

So I just hope I can ask you some question for the recent developments on this island, and some property issues about this island. Thank You!!"


What should I tell him, if I'm going to meet him at all, besides pointing him to our "10 reasons to avoid moving to Lamma"?? :wink:

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Let's spell it out once again, click below if you really consider moving to Lamma:

Challenges of living on Lamma,

10 reasons to avoid Lamma,

Warnings before moving to Lamma.

After reading these and NOT being deterred by those facts and the still ever-higher rents, some Lamma newcomers fit in here very nicely, being warmly welcomed by their new neighbours and new friends they'll meet right after moving here.
If they make the effort to fit into some parts of the community they might love it and some of them never leave, retiring here.

But we've had quite a few Lamma Newbies recently moving out after just a few months for various reasons.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:04 pm 
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What should I tell him, if I'm going to meet him at all

Get him to buy you lunch at least.

Take him there if you can, then he can enjoy the 10 minute walk up and down a very steep hill tenants will have to do to the ferry pier, or any local restaurants or shops, no sign of the dedicated ferry in the brochures. should be pleasant in the 32 C weather.

Make sure he knows that the Tannery site is unique, as it was former industrial land, all other housing on Lamma to date are only NT regulation village houses. (The quarry obviously will be the same; but the Baroque would require a change of land status from the current agricultural and green belt that has so far been rejected.)

If Bobby Li's name comes up, you could mention that no one ever calls him the "landlord of Lamma" except his own PR.

The rest covered in the articles you linked.


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At least keep Sham wan a preserve.....


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The discussion on this topic is raging on my Facebook Timeline, 23 comments in the last few hours:

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40 comments, just 3 hours later... and counting.

Obviously a hot and very controversial topic on Lamma right now! One of the last posts was:
"That would match HK in general and that place in particular: cheat, lie, hide."

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Lamma-Gung wrote:
The discussion on this topic is raging on my Facebook Timeline, 23 comments in the last few hours.

Well, I don't Facebook, so I'll respond here:

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The forerunner of potentially similar developments all over Lamma?

Impossible, because of land zoning as above.
This is the only non-village house development, because it was formerly industrial land.
Not legal to build anything except a 3 storey 700 sq ft village house anywhere else. This is why Baroque is just a brochure.
And aside from that: "all over Lamma"? They need to be within a few minutes' walk of a ferry pier. All that land is spoken for.
Unless everyone is going to paddle their own sampan over to Central.

Or maybe YLF has a plan to widen all the roads on Lamma and import tuk tuks from Bangkok.

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And it was a tannery with loads of very toxic chemicals in the soil before they bought the land in 1997, correct?

I think it was another company that originally bought the land, went broke.
I remember bright green and other chemical stains on the ground after the tannery was abandoned.

When it was in operation, there was a rather fragrant daily kaido bringing in cattle carcasses.
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You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs.


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Well lads, the person who has moved in to the "gilded cage" was assisted by Nick the Book, He's a working-class Londoner and don't know how much he's paying - he's already been to the Bars in Main Street, so hardly a mystery, particularly given he's already a member of the Lamma Boards.


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Chris Rogers wrote:
He's a working-class Londoner


I don't know who he is, but obviously if he ever was working class, he isn't now.


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