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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:56 pm 
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You obviously don't know me at all mate.


Ermm.. I think your response above was @Tigger. That's me. I didn't write that paragraph, so please can you take my name off it. Thanks :-)


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Sorry... Didn't remove it from the original "quote" :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:23 am 
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Chris Rogers wrote:
Lamma Gung,

With the building of illegal structures on the third floor roofs, does this mean we'll be able to rent 100 Sq. Ft on Lamma soon, i.e, like the cages in Kowloon for about HK$1,500-2,500 per month per cage?

You can fit about four cages in something 10X10 ft, that's about HK$6-12,000K per month extra, on top of your standard HK$20,000 charge for the third floor plus roof - however, do the LandLord's deal with those in the cages, or are these sub-let out?

Also, I thought "Gentirifacation" was about raising the standards and ambience of Lamma, rather than demoting it to a 'third world' slum?

Further, its hardly like Soho on the Main Street, so if I'm paying HK$25,000-HK$50,000 per month for my flat, should I not expect at a minimum bars, eateries and pizza palaces similar to Soho, rather than the more down market fayre and useless 'tack' shops we presently have?

I quite fancy a nice glass of "Chateau Le Chateau" Al Fresco on a Spring afternoon - obviously, with my rent I can't afford a full bottle, but who cares?

No doubt Alan Zeman is already eying Main Street up, so there's another investment opportunity - I think I'd make a good property agent on Lamma, indeed, I think by Spring 2014 a three storey village house should be pulling in HK$100,000 per month in rent, that's three flats and the rooftops for cages - ferry may get a little crowded though, so best we all start demanding the resumption of the old three tier ferries - I can open a nightclub on one of these and make even more cash off the much vaunted "Yuppies"!!!!!!!!!!!

Just a thought, but ain't unfettered capitalism fun, and Hong Kong according to the Hoover Institute, is the most freest economy in the World, so why don't we all just call it HK$50,000 a month each to live on the island - who knows, one day we may even get a "club House" and swimming pool - can't be bad!



Indeed, you can get a decent apartment under $30K in Mid-levels with satellite channels with club facilities, even you are bound to be in Hong Kong, whats the point living on Lamma, unless you are bound to be in Hong Kong, given the presence of european situation, you can live much better with the same amount of money on accommodation in Ibiza, Sicile, San Sébastian etc


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:32 am 
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Indeed, you can get a decent apartment under $30K in Mid-levels with satellite channels with club facilities, even you are bound to be in Hong Kong, whats the point living on Lamma, unless you are bound to be in Hong Kong, given the presence of european situation, you can live much better with the same amount of money on accommodation in Ibiza, Sicile, San Sébastian etc

Many of us Lammaites moved here when the rents were well below $10,000/month for 700 sqft, and they still are well below $10,000 for many of us, especially outside YSW. Together with the traffic-free, green environment, the mix of friendly and interesting people and the proximity to the city it makes it all worthwhile to live here, still one of the very best places to live in HK.

But the massive rent increases are obviously destroying this fine balance. It'll correct itself soon, reaching a higher, but not crazy level soon, I'd guess. My former flat has already dropped by $3,000/month asking price as they couldn't find a tenant for over 3 months already.

And about the "satellite channels with club facilities": We can get satellite HD TV and Internet TV (not NOW) with 192 channels, including European channels for very little money here. There's a gym, sports courts, great hiking/biking territory and several nice beaches, more fun than indoor sports facilities. Still a fine place to live, but "Ibiza, Sicily, San Sébastian" and many other places could be very nice, too. Someday I might sit in one of those seaside cafes, ordering a caffè macchiato or a café au lait...

OK, sorry for my little early-morning (6:30am) rant - obviously inspired by my usual freshly-ground, French-pressed wake-up coffee... Perked up enough now to get on my bike, up to Lamma Winds...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:56 am 
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And if you lived on Ibiza you would not have to worry about hordes of obnoxious tourists

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:18 pm 
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Talking to several restaurant owners yesterday, they complained that the number of visitors has dropped significantly overall from last year. You see quite a few local places empty even on a Sunday afternoon and sitting outside Main Street or Back Street, enjoying a coffee and a home-made cookie, these trickling "hordes" don't look too bad or obnoxious at all but are actually mostly very nice and often interesting individuals from many countries enjoying a leisurely day out.

Till you get up and start walking or, much worse, biking through Main Street during the few minutes when the crowds just come off the ferry...

But if you get away from Main Street and the Family Trail to Sok Kwu Wan, you meet almost no visitors, even on a beautiful Sunday like yesterday. I've been biking over much of North Lamma yesterday and was very rarely inconvenienced by "hordes of obnoxious tourists". But personal experiences may vary...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:12 pm 
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Lamma-Gung wrote:
The general rule for property ads in this free forum is that the advertisers can't charge commission and that it should be their own or their friends' flats. If we suspect property agents advertising here we'll throw them out and ask them to advertise on the home page (which they never do).

Not a single agent has ever advertised on this site, except one who was selling a few small flats for around $1 million each around 10 years or so ago. An entire old-style 2-floor Chinese house in Ko Long was advertised for $1 million, but never found a buyer back then.

Of course, agents might contact people looking for flats here directly, not much we can do to stop that on a public forum.

Enforcing charges and collecting the money for any classifieds would be such a head-ache and administrative overhead, I couldn't handle it myself. I think that it would be hardly worth my effort and time to follow up and collect this kind of small charges as they wouldn't be voluntary and advertisers would try hard to avoid them, of course. But if somebody, not an agent, promises a donation for any classified ad, we might make their post sticky, giving them top-of-the-classifieds exposure for several weeks or until sold. Thank you, adamk, for your just received donation!

This site still relies on (completely voluntary) advertisers and the occasional, very rare donors and sponsors. I hope that my long-time acquaintance and nice guy Damian will be one of them, despite all the heat he's getting here. ;-)

He's finally found a good tenant, at a pretty reasonable rate in the middle of the current market, close to rates during the last 2 years.

True to his word, he immediately made a very nice donation to this forum, helping to keep it going. Many thanks, Damian!

If somebody, not an agent, promises a donation for any classified ad, we might make their post sticky, giving them prime, top-of-the-classifieds exposure for several weeks or until sold.

From now on, we'll be hoping for more donations from successful flat owners who find long-term tenants via these free classifieds, and from people who are selling high-priced items here (>$1,000). Expect to get occasional gentle reminders if you're one of them...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:45 am 
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chynchen wrote:
Chris Rogers wrote:
Lamma Gung,

With the building of illegal structures on the third floor roofs, does this mean we'll be able to rent 100 Sq. Ft on Lamma soon, i.e, like the cages in Kowloon for about HK$1,500-2,500 per month per cage?

You can fit about four cages in something 10X10 ft, that's about HK$6-12,000K per month extra, on top of your standard HK$20,000 charge for the third floor plus roof - however, do the LandLord's deal with those in the cages, or are these sub-let out?

Also, I thought "Gentirifacation" was about raising the standards and ambience of Lamma, rather than demoting it to a 'third world' slum?

Further, its hardly like Soho on the Main Street, so if I'm paying HK$25,000-HK$50,000 per month for my flat, should I not expect at a minimum bars, eateries and pizza palaces similar to Soho, rather than the more down market fayre and useless 'tack' shops we presently have?

I quite fancy a nice glass of "Chateau Le Chateau" Al Fresco on a Spring afternoon - obviously, with my rent I can't afford a full bottle, but who cares?

No doubt Alan Zeman is already eying Main Street up, so there's another investment opportunity - I think I'd make a good property agent on Lamma, indeed, I think by Spring 2014 a three storey village house should be pulling in HK$100,000 per month in rent, that's three flats and the rooftops for cages - ferry may get a little crowded though, so best we all start demanding the resumption of the old three tier ferries - I can open a nightclub on one of these and make even more cash off the much vaunted "Yuppies"!!!!!!!!!!!

Just a thought, but ain't unfettered capitalism fun, and Hong Kong according to the Hoover Institute, is the most freest economy in the World, so why don't we all just call it HK$50,000 a month each to live on the island - who knows, one day we may even get a "club House" and swimming pool - can't be bad!



Indeed, you can get a decent apartment under $30K in mid levels apartments for rent with satellite channels with club facilities, even you are bound to be in Hong Kong, whats the point living on Lamma, unless you are bound to be in Hong Kong, given the presence of european situation, you can live much better with the same amount of money on accommodation in Ibiza, Sicile, San Sébastian etc


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